Monday, April 30, 2012

Rochester Brooks Spring Deuce 2012 (Sunday)

The weather was the difference between night and day from Friday to Sunday.   For the most part sunny and a high of 60 degrees (16 celsius). A slight breeze as the day wore on. On Friday we were wearing winter clothes and trying to keep warm and protected from the cold wind.

Three flights on Sunday, the first at 8:30.  I shot at 11:30 and departed as the third flight was taking the field.


17 stations, the usual for the Spring Deuce.

Refs were knowledgeable and all explained target presentation before show targets were called for.  Many times I heard do you want to see them again!

I didn't shoot that great, but don't feel that I got beat up by the target setter and had a good time. All were hittable targets. No eye test that I can remember.

A couple of times I saw machine problems.  Someone was working the problem almost immediately. All the repair people had cell phones and could be quickly notified by the refs. On two occasions machines were changed out with a tractor. Hats off to the guys working maintenance.

For the most part a different main course in regard to use of club properly. I've been attending this shoot for a number of years and the first time I had seen the part of the property where the majority of the main course stations were located. A nice surprise!

This weekend shoot reminded me of shoots held several years in the past. To be honest I was thinking of dropping this shoot, as something had been missing the last few years. Almost not worth the drive (over five hours).

This year the dedicated small gauge course was something not seen in recent years and as I mentioned the main course shot over basically virgin territory. Not just a shuffle of machines and stands on the preliminary course.  Until the last few years the main course in the past was always a surprise. I for one appreciate the extra effort put in this year!

We're already talking about next year.  With the addition of the dedicated small gauge course we plan on shooting it next year.  Something we stopped doing when they combined it with the the preliminary course.


The club house building will be undergoing a complete rehab to include additional deck space.

Motels are 15 minutes north of the club. 15 minutes north of the motels is major shopping, to include Gander Mtn. and Dicks.

The Rochester Brooks Gun Club is located just south of Rochester, New York.


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Saturday, April 28, 2012

Rochester Brooks Spring Deuce 2012 (Saturday)

Much improved weather on the second day of the shoot.  Only in the 40s, but hardly any wind and sunny skies.

FITASC in the AM.  Parcour 1 had a little more distance then Parcour 2.  Fair targets and no eye test.

We shot a re-shoot on the 14 station prelim course in the PM. 

Saturday Video

Not seen in the last few years, but the club this year had a course set just for the small gauge events.  A return to the good old days and something that made the Spring Deuce special.  I was not expecting this and passed on the small gauge events, but something I most likely will do next year, shooting the 28 gauge event.

Walking the prelim course today I observed several stations set in the distance (closed off and not used) that will be used for the main event on Sunday. The main event is usually 17 stations.

Shoot Photos


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Remington STS Shot Shell (Rumor)

I was told Remington is doing one last run of STS shot shell ammunition and then will drop that line of shells.

Also told the remaining wads used to make STS shells will be released to distributors after the run and then they will also cease to be made.

This is not official but received from a reliable source. Hopefully, incorrect information!


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Friday, April 27, 2012

Rochester Brooks Spring Deuce 2012 (Friday)

A cold afternoon at the Rochester Brooks Gun Club, Rush New York.

We shot the 100 target preliminary.

Spring Deuce Video (Friday)

Put my rain gear paints on to cut down on the cold wind.  Thankfully, I brought my winter shooting jacket and gloves.

Station 1, 2, and 3 were tough with the wind blowing.  I doubt target presentations were what the target setter had in mind.  The gray skies were no help : (

Once we got  passed those three stations, it seemed we were out of the worst of the wind (20 to 30 knots) and targets were what you expect and scores picked up.

Expected it to be muddy on the course but not a problem.

Suppose to hit at least 50 on both Saturday and Sunday.  Just hope we see some sun!

Shoot Photos

We have to be on the parcour at 8:30am Saturday for FITASC.


Guns in the News, the Lost Target Website

Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Ontario Trapshooting Association April Newsletter

One of the better trapshooting newsletters (Canada)


APRIL 2012 Edition

OPTA Clubhouse (April 2012 Edition)


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State-by-state concealed carry laws: The good, the bad, and the ugly

A good read...

Some states support heavy-handed rules
by Raquel Okyay
From state to state across the nation, varied concealed carry laws that determine the legality of carrying and traveling with a weapon, are about as chaotic as a spinning tornado. Currently, each state in the union has some kind of menacing restriction placed on innocent Americans that concurrently and specifically violate the Second and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution.

With no clear federal standard, many state authorities are imposing heavy-handed rules that penalize American citizens for exercising Second Amendment rights that, in the best circumstances, afford them the freedom to carry firearms wherever they go.

State authorities are arbitrarily picking and choosing which non-resident citizens have permission to carry a concealed weapon, if at all. Without uniformly defining reciprocity roles -- each state having its own set of details, requirements and deals -- makes traveling with firearms a time consuming, advanced chore requiring hours of intense research, dozens of phone calls, and weeks or sometimes months of wait time with no guaranteed results.

This is why a federal standard is needed to make sure our Second Amendment rights remain intact; and proactive measures are necessary to battle the anti-firearm establishment that persistently seeks to undermine our constitutional right to carry weapons.

Borrowing from the title of the 1966 Italian film starring American actor, Clint Eastwood, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, a story about gunfights, hangings, and buried Confederate gold; the following catalog of states’ concealed carry laws is the story of assumptions, gun control, and American liberty buried in the fold.

Monday, April 23, 2012

Canadian Firearms License Renewal

Received my renewal application for my Canadian Firearms License (five year license).

Your suppose to receive the application 90 days before your current one expires.  I received my at the 91 day mark.

No fee to renew the license.  Yes, no charge!

A new passport size photo was required.  I went to AAA and had it done. Cheaper then using the photo shop at Walmart and one of the benefits of being a AAA member. You can use your own photo, but you have to reduce and cut to size.  Not worth the effort!

My spouse was required to sign the application.  They have the right to contact her if they have any questions on mental health status or what have you. 

As an American with a Canadian Firearms license I'm also required to provide a letter from U.S. law enforcement stating that I don't have a criminal record.  A stop at the sheriffs department and the letter was in hand within 48 hours.  The letter must be current and on department letter head. You can send in a copy of the letter.

The application was returned last Friday.  Mailed in the envelope provided.  They run there own checks upon receiving the application.  By law they have to sit on it for so many days to give the checks they do ample time to clear the system with either not a problem or a problem.

The license is then sent on to one of the Providences.  For me it's Quebec. For my initial license and my previous renewal I ended up calling the firearm center and asking where my license was, as ten weeks had gone by and no license in hand.  Both times it was sitting in an office in Quebec, processing not completed.  Both times, a week went by and the license was received via airmail postal rate.  I'm not the first that had this problem with the Quebec office.

The first week of July I will be calling and prepared to play phone tag.  Just the way it is, but I could be surprised!

Sunday, April 22, 2012

Federal 12 ga. Top Gun Sale @ Brownells

I don't know how long the sale or the use of the Promo code.

Use the promo code with your order of $200 or more and in reality your receiving free shipping.

$5.29 a box (Sale Price).

.    12 gauge
     Shell Length: 2 3/4”
  • Weight: 1 1/8 oz.
  • Shot size: #8
  • Velocity (fps): 1145

  • Enter Promo code DM8 for $20 off an order over $200

    UPDATE APRIL 25:  The above code is no longer working, but using code DQX gives you free shipping.  I had to order three cases for it to work.  On backorder.  I used the previous code last week and also was on backorder. Received email today stating thursday delivery.



    Guns in the News, The Lost Target Website.

    Sensible gun laws save lives

    The left is mobilized and in recent weeks a number of articles have been written calling for the return to sensible gun laws!

    At the End of the day the Real Objective!


    The Lefts Idea of Sensible Gun Laws:

    Pay a reasonable annual registration fee, per firearm ($1,000).

    Be in possession of a license approved by local officials who make the rules.

    Guns in the home must be disassembled.

    Safe storage.

    Transported securely to and from the range.

    Use ammunition approved by the government.

    Use firearms only in areas not designated Gun Free zones.

    * Reposted by the Lost Target

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    Friday, April 20, 2012

    Rochester Brooks Spring Deuce, Looking Back

    I'm registered for the FITASC, Preliminary and Sporting Clays main event at the 16th Annual Spring Deuce, April 27-29th, 2012, Rochester Brooks Gun Club, Rush, New York.

    An NSCA Big Blast Shoot that always has 200 shooters plus in attendance.

    Small gauge events in addition to preliminary, FITASC, and main event.

    Always a nice turnout of New York shooters and a big turnout from Ontario and Quebec. Not unusual to pass a squad and hear them discussing target presentations in french. A 5 to 7 hour drive for the Quebec shooters. May be the best attended sporting clays shoot by Canadians in the USA.

    Motels are 15 minutes from the club and shopping centers 15 minutes north of the motels.

    Referees work all three days of the shoot. May I add, very knowledgeable of the rules. Not many missed calls at the Spring Deuce!

    Machine break downs resolved quickly. Always plenty of water on the course.

    What can I tell you, one of the better shoots...

    I was going through my web postings and found a bit of history from past shoots:

    Photos (and a few videos)...

    15th Annual Spring Deuce - April 15-17th, 2011

    April 23-25, 2010

    April 24-26, 2009

    April 25-27th, 2008

    No Photos - 2007

    April 28-30, 2006

    April 22-25, 2005

    April 23-25, 2004

    Seventh Annual Spring Deuce - April 26-27, 2003

    The shoot still has openings for the sporting clays events...


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    Thursday, April 19, 2012

    The Democrats’ Racist Gun Control History

    My understanding of history and a good read...

    The Democrats’ Racist Gun Control History

    by Ann Coulter

    Liberals have leapt on the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Florida to push for the repeal of “stand your ground” laws and to demand tighter gun control. (MSNBC’S Karen Finney blamed “the same people who stymied gun regulation at every point.”) This would be like demanding more funding for the General Services Administration after seeing how its employees blew taxpayer money on a party weekend in Las Vegas.We don’t know the facts yet, but let’s assume the conclusion MSNBC is leaping to is accurate: George Zimmerman stalked a small black child and murdered him in cold blood, just because he was black.If that were true, every black person in America should get a gun and join the National Rifle Association, America’s oldest and most august civil rights organization.

    Apparently this has occurred to no one because our excellent public education system ensures that no American under the age of 60 has the slightest notion of this country’s history.

    Gun control laws were originally promulgated by Democrats to keep guns out of the hands of blacks. This allowed the Democratic policy of slavery to proceed with fewer bumps and, after the Civil War, allowed the Democratic Ku Klux Klan to menace and murder black Americans with little resistance.



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    Wednesday, April 18, 2012

    Fast and Furious: Will Obama, Holder Come Clean?

    Scholastic Shooting Sports Foundation Receives $3 Million Donation

    From my readings, a few much need changes to the SCTP and as a result a $3 million dollar donation...

    Scholastic Shooting Sports Foundation Receives $3 Million Donation from Larry and Brenda Potterfield

    Shelby Township, MI - The Scholastic Shooting Sports Foundation (SSSF) announced today that Larry and Brenda Potterfield, founders and owners of MidwayUSA, have committed to donate $3 Million Dollars to the Scholastic Shooting Sports Foundation (SSSF) and Scholastic Clay Target Program (SCTP) for programs in 2012.

    Although the Potterfield name is synonymous with MidwayUSA, this generous gift is a personal donation from Larry and Brenda Potterfield. The purpose of the donation is to grow and sustain youth shooting programs for as many high school and college students as possible. The Potterfield's donated $1.6 Million to the Foundation in 2011 and this years $3 Million dollar donation is the largest one the Scholastic Shooting Sports Foundation has received to date.



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    Tuesday, April 17, 2012

    Canadians purchasing firearms in the states

    With the recent change in the law in Canada to no longer require the registration of shotguns and rifes (except Quebec, pending in the courts), I have received several inquires in regard to visiting the states and purchasing a long gun and transporting it to Canada.

    The answer is nothing has changed in regard to U.S. law and you must go through an FFL to purchase a firearm and export.

    Purchasing a firearm from a nonlicensee to possess in the United States

    A nonimmigrant alien generally MAY NOT purchase a firearm from a nonlicensee to possess in the United States. If you violate this prohibition, you could receive a maximum of 5 or 10 years of imprisonment, depending on the violation. If you have questions regarding possible exceptions to this prohibition, contact the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
    The deal must go through an FFL and you can't take possession. The FFL must do a permanent export and ship the firearm to Canada. This includes firearms given as a gift, won at a shoot, or found along the side of the road!

    The rule for U.S. citizens in regard to transfering a firearm:

    Q: To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?

    A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
    As your not a resident of the state, no sale. FFL REQUIRED.

    A must read...

    Nonimmigrant Aliens Purchasing Firearms and Ammunition in the United States

    A listing of Firearm Dealers who will do the paperwork and export a firearm to Canada.

    Firearm Dealers

    For those who have no intention of purchasing a firearm, but just want to visit the states with a firearm, the process takes several weeks.

    The procedure can be found here.


    Friday, April 13, 2012

    Romney: Obama Doesn't Protect Gun Owners' Rights

    Changes to the Import Requirements for Non-restricted Firearms (Canada)

    Customs Notice 12-013

    Changes to the Import Requirements for Non-restricted Firearms


    Residents importing goods that were previously exported from Canada, can ask the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) staff to document their firearms, on Form BSF407, Identification of Articles for Temporary Exportation, before leaving the country.

    The BSF407 can be used to identify the goods as having been previously exported from Canada to ensure they aren’t subject to duties or taxes.

    The information recorded on the BSF407 will include specific details about the goods, including make, model, serial number or other identifying information.


    Due to a Quebec Superior Court temporary injunction, Bill C-19 does not apply in Quebec. Residents and non-residents, entering a port of entry within the province of Quebec, must present a valid firearms licence (Possession and Acquisition Licence or Possession Only Licence) and a registration certificate to import non-restricted firearms. Non-residents not in possession of these documents must complete a Non-resident Firearms Declaration form (CAFC 909) and pay the $25 confirmation fee to import non-restricted firearms.

    Gander Mtn. Shell Sale. About Time!

    Gander Mtn. has Federal Top Gun shells on sale for $5.99 a box. They normally sell for $6.49.

    I had two $10 off Gander Mt. certificates for purchases of $50 or more. No restrictions on use and no expiration date. I've been sitting on them for a few years. We're given out at a Flagler Chain shoot upon registration.

    Purchased two cases at $49.90, before tax using both certificates. They had to ring me up twice, as could only use one certificate per purchase.

    First time I purchased anything shooting related at Gander Mtn. in I don't know how long, as usually no deals to be found and overpriced. I always ended up at Dicks when looking for a deal on Top Gun Shells.

    I talked to the manager and he said in the last six months he has been seeing sales on ammunition.

    I just purchased the same shells at the sale price for a few dollars less per case from another source, but in a pinch I would shop the sales at Gander Mtn.

    A warning on Gander Mtn. and Dicks money off certificates, many exclude ammunition purchases. Read the fine print!

    ATA, NSSA, & NSCA should no longer mail Annual Average Cards!

    It’s time for the national clay target shooting organizations to examine the cost of mailing membership and average cards upon annual renewal.

    Instead of doing an average card mailing for each member, shooters would go to their association’s website after payment and download the current average card and proof of membership.

    The Amateur Trapshooting Association (ATA) already has a “Shooter Detail Report” for each shooter that is “Print Friendly” posted to its website. If an ATA member you should take a look at your report, very impressive!

    It can easily be used in place of the annual average card that is mailed to each member, as it contains all the information that is mailed to members each year. More importantly it’s updated after every shoot report received. A slight modification to the form so shooters can add scores and the ATA would be set to go. Not sending out, say 20,000 average cards. The savings would be?

    I see no reason why the computer wizards at the NSSA and the NSCA could not do the same. A savings that could be instead spent promoting the shooting sports in national non-shooting publications!

    Also, many services on the internet have an option for annual automatic renewal. Why not the same option for members of clay target organizations?

    An email would be generated each year by a computer program stating your automatic renewal will take place in the next 30 days, go to this page if you wish to decline renewal. Your credit card or Paypal account would be used. A second email would be generated upon receipt telling the member to go to the association’s website and download the average card (membership). Or, it could be set to send a PDF attachment with a current average card.

    Its time to take advantage of the technology on hand!

    Tuesday, April 10, 2012

    ATF Form 6NIA Guidance re Canadian Firearm Registration Certificate

    With Canadian Firearm Registraion Certificates a thing of the past with the recent change to Canadian law I was asked about filling out the paperwork required for Canadians who visit the USA with a firearm.

    The answer is in the Instruction Sheet For ATF Form 6NIA (5330.3D).

    23. Only nonimmigrant aliens seeking to temporarily import firearms from Canada should answer question 12. This question requires all nonimmigrant aliens seeking to import firearms from Canada to provide their Firearms Possession License Number and/or Firearms Possession and Acquisition License Number.

    In addition, only nonimmigrant aliens seeking to import firearms from Canada should answer question 15h, listing the Firearms Registration Certificate Number of each firearm they seek to temporarily import.

    If you do not have a Firearms Registration Certificate Number for a particular firearm, you should write “N/A”.

    Monday, April 09, 2012

    Remington Rebates 2012, Not Happening!

    Both Winchester and Federal have come out with their 2012 Target Shell Rebate programs. Not a word from Remington, except rumors posted on various talk boards.

    As of this posting, no clay target shot shell rebates offered for 2012.

    This has been the rumor for most of the winter and unfortunately seems to be true.

    Also, seen posted on talk boards but a little hard to believe, is Remington was thinking of exiting the clay target shot shell business. Shells for clay target shooters is but a small portion of Remington, but a shell seen at all shoots and a favorite shell for many that reload. Remington is owned by Cerberus Capital Management and if the line of shells is dropped I suspect profit margins is what they looked at.

    In anycase, you can receive a $20 rebate per case (US & Canada) from both Winchester and Federal (Gold Medal).

    Sunday, April 08, 2012

    Reduce Time Balk, Skeet

    A much needed rule change in registered NSSA skeet.

    Reduce time balk. It has been considered a time balk if a shooter deliberately delays more than 15 seconds for each shot on a station, and the referee will warn him/her once each round without penalty. The rule is changed to reduce the time balk to 10 seconds.
    I use to referee at my home club in New York and it was not to bad if you had one shooter on a squad that took his time before calling for a target, but more than that...

    I'd find my mind wandering when I had slow shooters. Listening to conversations on the adjacent field or starting to think of things not associated with the shoot. Sometimes, that resulted in a not so crisp release of the target. Talk about a long day on the field...

    There was one squad where all five on the squad took all the time allotted before calling for a target. To make matters worse, they all only loaded one shell on singles. Using the same amount of time for the second shot. I think they were all AA shooter. I can tell you they were not always getting the best pulls!

    I was at a shoot several years back and a squad was moved to the practice field because of the time they were taken to complete one round. The whole squad was slow. The on-coming squad had already waited in excess of 30 minutes and they still had one round to go.

    If the NSSA would like to speed things up just a bit more, they could mandate the shooting of doubles on station #4 in a regular round of skeet.

    Now, if the NSSA would just do away with distance stakes and encourage the use of radar. How many times I had to explain to a shooter that targets are set under no wind conditions, not reset just because the wind was blowing...

    Saturday, April 07, 2012

    Good Friday Trap Shoot @ Valleyfield

    The wife and I crossed the border and attended the Good Friday shoot at Club de Tir de Valleyfield, St-Stanislas-de-Kostka, Québec.

    22 shooters in attendance.

    A cool day with a cold wind. 36 degrees at the club when we arrived.

    We shot 50 per field.

    Shoot Video and Results

    Only stayed for the singels.

    Used one of the smaller border crossings and no wait time coming or going.

    Held my breath going into Canada, as long gun registration laws changed on April 5. The new law does away with long gun registration and the requiement to have a long gun registration card!

    Not a problem when crossing and old rules seem to still be in place.

    However, the registration card(s) is what you use with the license when entering Canada. I have a Canadian Firearms License and follow the same rules as Canadians.

    The Canadian website still shows using the registration cards is valid, but had no idea when approaching the border if the crossing rules had been updated after I had left for the shoot.

    Still no update as of this posting!

    I'm sure they will come up with something that Canadians can live with in regard to crossing the Canadian border with a long gun, but I'm not expecting good things for Americans with a Canadian Firearms License. I suspect the use of the 60 permit will be required at $25 a pop.

    I have an email in asking what the new procedure will be.

    Expecting the worse and hoping for the best...

    Thursday, April 05, 2012

    Canadian Firearms Program Changes (Apr 5, 2012)

    Royal Canadian Mounted Police:

    Changes to the Canadian Firearms Program

    On April 5, 2012, Bill C-19, Ending the Long-Gun Registry Act, came into effect. The key changes are as follows:

    •Removal of the requirement to register non-restricted firearms
    •Destruction of the existing non-restricted firearms registration records
    •Allowing the transferor of a non-restricted firearm to obtain confirmation of a transferee’s firearms acquisition licence prior to the transfer being finalized

    Until further notice, due to a Court Order issued by the Quebec Superior Court, residents of Quebec are still required to register non-restricted firearms with the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program.

    It is important to note that the new law does not change the requirement for all individuals to hold a licence in order to possess a firearm. The licensing, safety training and safe storage requirements for anyone who uses or owns a firearm continue to be in force.

    The legislation also does not impact registration requirements for restricted or prohibited firearms.


    Paperwork requirements for Canadians re-entering Canada with a firearm as of this date has not been addressed. Past procedures are still being followed.

    I'm keeping an eye on the Firearm Website for posted changes!

    Wednesday, April 04, 2012

    Montpelier Gun Club 2012

    2011 saw the shoot schedule see major changes as the club had flooding issues.

    The club has returned to its normal schedule in 2012 in regard to ATA shoots.

    Montpelier Gun Club (Vermont)

    2012 ATA Shoot Dates

    May 26-27

    Jun 15-17 (State Shoot)

    Sept 9th

    Oct 7th

    Clays Vermont