Monday, April 18, 2016

Olympic Bunker Trap Clubs (USA & Canada)

Continuing my revamp of various Lost Target pages I threw out the Olympic Bunker Traps club links page I was maintaining and made a Google Map that list all Olympic Bunker Traps in both the USA and Canada (that I'm aware).  To my knowledge, all 15 machine bunkers.

Going through the links when making the map I find, as I had in my old club links page, a number of clubs that either changed URL and/or moved to Facebook.  A few clubs had no information available.  Web page no longer available.

The posted map and on the same page, current and past YouTube posted Bunker Trap shoots.


If you see a club missing or no longer in operation, drop me a line.

Lost Target Web Site Updated

I'm nearing the end of reviewing and updating information pages associated with the Lost Target website.  Long overdue.

I deleted the "Club" link page that listed clubs in all 50 states and Canada. It was almost impossible to keep current with resources on hand.  For whatever reason clubs not maintaining sites (or letting them die), changing URL every few years, and / or moving to Facebook and such.   I replaced with a page that list search engines links to gun clubs.

The general Link page listing various companies and services deleted. It was needed before the event of Google, but no longer.  Replaced with individual pages of services that include links that Google may not rate highly and might take multiple searches to find.  

As I mentioned in a previous posting I reposted and revised Northeast Florida Clay Target Clubs links with a Google map.  I also updated all general Florida links page in regard to clay target clubs in Florida that I continue to maintain.

I took a serious look on pages in regard to American and Canadian gun laws.  Both countries in my experience have a history of changing links to information with no notice. 

A serious pruning to FFL's who will do imports/exports.  If your aware of someone in the international import/export business, especially in regard to Canada, let me know.

I'm at a lose at what do in regard to Canadians visiting the USA with a firearm.  I have information overload on border crossing, but my thinking is no need for someone to get turned away at the border because of a lack of information.

The main problem....

The law changed a few years back.  Those not needing a VISA to enter the USA (many Canadians), no longer require a shoot invitation or hunting license (any state) to support the required ATF Form 6NIA. This is the pre-approved form they must have in there possession when crossing the border.  It's submitted to ATF West Virginia prior to a planned visit and may take anywhere from one to six weeks for approval.

Question FAQ - ATF Website:
What documentation does an alien need to show U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) when entering the United States with a firearm?
When entering the United States, an alien must show CBP both the approved Form 6 NIA (5330.3D) permit, and if admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa, appropriate documentation demonstrating you fall within an exception to the nonimmigrant alien prohibition.

[27 CFR 478.120]  Q&A Category:  Nonimmigrant Aliens     Last Reviewed February 10, 2016

If a VISA holder you would need to provide in most instances either a hunting license (any state) or a shoot invitation.  A non-VISA holder would not be required to provide either.  For whatever reason U.S. Customs and Border Protection has a problem with this.
It's hit and miss.  Some U.S. Customs and Border Protection crossings refuse to acknowledge non-VISA holders no longer need the supporting documentation and insist on seeing supporting documentation even if the approved form shows not needed.  Unless something has changed, the ATF Firearms Branch has not been willing to do battle with U.S. Customs and Border Protection over this. 

All I can do is post current law and give warnings.  I suspect not all agreed in the government with the change in federal law and playing games in regard to not updating the laws referenced by U.S. Customs and Border Protection in regard to firearms, as too many years have past for anything but that.  The approved form itself should be the final word, but not always the case.

The Lost Target

Friday, April 15, 2016

Northeast Florida Clay Target Clubs Map

I blew up the web page I was maintaining on club locations in Northeast Florida and put the clubs on Google Maps.  A much needed conversion and easy to get directions via Google.

If you have a question I may be able to answer, as I've visited a number of the clubs, but not all. For recent information best to contact the club directly.

The Flagler club is best visited by contacting the club (or a member) prior to a visit, as entry is gate controlled via a member issued gate card reader. 

The St. Augustine Skeet Club is private, but in my experience most receive permission to shoot if you talk to whoever is running the club that day.  If they have an event or membership function you will most likely be turned away.  A beautiful looking club.

The Jacksonville club sporting clays course can be busy on weekends. They have golf cart rentals and recommended you take advantage, as a long course.   Rumor is they may open a second course.  Non-member skeet and trap rates in the $9 range per round.

The Volusia club is busy in the winter months.  Very difficult at times to shoot two times, back to back. We try to game arrival time to miss waits.  In the winter, this club could be the most active Skeet & Trap club on the east coast.  The also have 5-stand.  Very reasonable shoot and membership fees.  A large staff of volunteer workers.

The Amelia club has loaner guns.  New shooter friendly.

If you have never shot Olympic Bunker Trap, the Gator club is the place to visit.  Contact the club prior to visit to ensure the bunker will be open.

* I've been informed after this posting the Gator club has loaner guns and in addition to the Olympic bunker which will be opened anytime anybody comes, the club has completely redone the 5 Stand.

The Okefenokee Sporting Clays Club is in Georgia, just over the border.  I last shot at the club maybe 7-8 years back.  I paid a visit this year on a weekend and no one was at the club.  The clubs web site did not indicate a closure.  Recommend you call before travel. 

The Saltwater's club in St. Augustine is west of the airport.  Recently opened to the public.  Two courses, one for the big boys (and girls).  Only shot there a few time and enjoyed are visits.

Bradford has two sporting clays courses (but can expand to three).  A fun friendly course and one for the more experienced.  Also, two 5-stands.

The Palatka club is a club we usually shoot in the middle of the week.  Seven skeet fields and you can usually get one to get in some serious practice, even if you just want to stay on one station.  A PAT Trap has supposedly been purchased to replace an old Winchester on the clubs lone trap field, but it had not been installed as of are last visit.  Your responsible for opening individual fields and if your the last shooter on the field, your responsible for filling the machines, policing the field, and closing the field.

Northeast Florida Clay Target Clubs