The Lost Target website is a web-based news service that strives to post news of interest for gun enthusiasts. The webmaster for the site resides in upstate New York and shoots registered Skeet, Trap, and Sporting Clays in the states and Canada. By no means a top gun, a shooter just out to have fun...
I became aware of a club that has a rule where you can't shoot clay targets at the club with a shotgun with a barrel length of less that 26 inches.
We're not talking registered shooting in a discipline that may have such a rule, we're talking practice at the club, just dropping in to have a day at the range.
A safety issue?
I've easily shot at over 100 clubs and was the president of a gun club and never seen this as an issue or even considered a safety issue, especially in regard to visiting a clay target club for practice.
I did a quick google. A simi-auto is approximately 4 inches longer then an O/U. A simi-auto with a 24 inch barrel would be the same length as an O/U with a 28 inch barrel.
Granted, the longer the barrel the better in regard to gun swing, but that's not the discussion.
I gather they don't wish to encourage youth shooters, small stature women, and the thousands of hunters who own firearms with barrel lengths of less then 26 inches.
I've lost count of the number of times I've seen new shooters at a club with either a shotgun they use for hunting, or the fathers or grandfathers. Sure would have been some unhappy campers if the club turned them away because the club had a rule that the barrel had to be at least 26 inches long.
We shot practice trap & Skeet at the Valleyfield club today. A Canadian club.
We had shot practice a few times at another club in July, but I think the targets are set a little on the soft side. Thus, the visit to Valleyfield.
Much needed practice, as we once again start attending shoots next week.
Not a very good first round in trap, much better in the second. Timing was off...
Joann, a shooter I had last seen at the Vermont state shoot, shot a few rounds of trap with us. She still in the learning stage. I have no doubt she's going to turn into a very competent trap shooter as she seems very determined. Also, a very nice person who seems to get along with all! By the way, she is one of the ladies I featured in the 2009 Vermont State Shoot video that I posted.
She had her black lab with her and she was giving it a workout with a Retrieving Dummy Launcher. Neat to watch! A warm day and she made sure the dog was in the shade when she was shooting. Filled the dogs water bowl at least twice.
I mention the dog and how it was treated, as there is one shooter I won't talk to or have anything to do with from the time I observed how he treated his dog during a shoot.
We shot with a trio of shooters in skeet. One of the three was a lady duck hunter with a pump and not shooting the doubles, only singles. The gun seemed to fit her like a glove.
With a little encouragement, on the second round she shot the doubles and did very well. I think she surprised herself...
I've observed my share of shooters in my time and she's a natural. The perfect person to pay for a series of lessons before she picks up to many bad habits that are hard to break. She could also get someone at the local club that knows what there doing to work with here. Anyway, the potential is there...
I suggested, as all three were duck hunters, they should consider attending the upcoming sporting clays shoot at the La Roue du Roy, as they would really enjoy the target presentations.
From conversation, I see the club has authorized the purchase of two sets of voice release systems for trap. Talked about the past several years and much needed.
The club has been rebuilding for some time, as a past administration had run it into the ground with the club almost not being a viable operation.
We're talking the club house needing a new roof, machines that had not seen maintenance for a number of years, buildings on the fields needing to be replaced, power grid needing upgrade, fences down, and no money in the bank. It's nice to see the club put in place one of the last pieces of the rebuild, that included the purchase of skeet and trap machines. I think I mentioned in an earlier posting they were also planing on purchasing two machines for the 5-stand at the end of the year. A 5-stand that did not exist under the old administration.
Crossing the border coming and going saw border agents that I have seen a number of times. The conversation centered around clay target shooting when we crossed.
The Florida ATA website is temporary off line as of this posting. The site is being moved to a new server after the host ISP went out of business. As part of the move the website is being reconfigured.
Sitting in the house I saw a puff of feathers out of the corner of my eye off the top of the front yard bird feeder...
Lost a hard drive.
Can't say I did not see it coming. I had been backing up data in anticipation of a hard drive crash.
The computer was maxed as it was, not able to easily handle newer programs. I be working on a project and the program would crash. As an example, I could not view a finished video project prior to conversion. On top of that the conversion could take a minimum of two hours.
Hardware updates was not an option, so a new computer was purchased.
That took a number of shoots off the calendar...
Registered users of the Lost Target Calendar and Information Forum now have the ability to post multiple photos in a posting from the newly installed Lost Target Gallery program.
Those who post firearms for sale should find this a handy option.
Someone had a problem finding photos that were posted to Clays Vermont.
I think the problem was I had to many categories.
Deleting one page and combining two, I think I resolved the issue.
I receive several inquires each month about selling a firearm to a Canadian visiting the USA. I've posted on this in the past, but time to revisit the issue.
I'm not an FFL, nor an expert, I just do a bit of reading from time to time, so for what it's worth.
The short answer is NO!
You cannot sell directly to a visitor (Canadian) who is visting the USA for any reason; Attending a shoot, hunting, attending a gun show, vacation...
If the transaction does not go through an FFL, it's not legal under federal law!
An FFL can sell to a Canadian, but the FFL cannot let the Canadian take possession. The FFL must ship the firearm to Canada or transport it to the border after getting a US export permit and a International Import Certificate (IIC) issued by DFAIT Canada. Duties will have to be paid. Duties depend on country of manufacture.
The problem the seller will have is 99% of FFL holders will not handle an export transaction.
Leroy's Big Valley Gun Works has been exporting firearms to Canada for many years. Contact them and send them the firearm and they will do the rest. They charge a very reasonable rate.
Leroy's Big Valley Gun Works Box 22, 527-2nd Avenue North Glasgow, Montana 59230 USA Phone: 406-228-4867 E-mail: leroygun
ATF Publication 5300.18
Having a third party purchase a firearm for you from a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) to possess in the United States
If you are not eligable to purchase a firearm from an FFL to possess in the United States, you MAY NOT have someone who is eligible purchase one for you. If you violate this prohibition, both you and the person who purchases the firearm for you could receive a maximum of 5 or 10 years of imprisonment, depending on the violation.
Purchasing a firearm from a nonlicensee to possess in the United States
A nonimmigrant alien generally MAY NOT purchase a firearm from a nonlicensee to possess in the United States. If you violate this prohibition, you could receive a maximum of 5 or 10 years of imprisonment, depending on the violation. If you have questions regarding possible exceptions to this prohibition, contact the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
* The word GENERALLY means: The Canadian has resided in a State for 90 continuous days immediately before purchasing the gun (long gun) and intend to make a home in that State — it does NOT have to be the State where the long gun purchase is occurring. Only then can they take immediate possession. The rule for handguns is slightly different.
The publication I posted talks about ammunition purchased. The ATF has ruled not allowed unless the visitors is in possession of an ATF Form 6NIA and/or a stateside hunting license (from any state).
Speaking of ammunition. Ammunition purchased, won, or given as a gift cannot depart the USA without an approved export permit. Only ammunition brought into the USA on an approved ATF Form 6NIA can be taken out of the USA without an export permit.
I was just asked if an American could take a firearm into Canada and just leave it (sold to a Canadian).
The answer is NO!
All permanent exports of firearms must start with an FFL and an export permit, also an International Import Certificate (IIC) issued by DFAIT Canada must be in hand, as previously discussed.
One last item that is federal law in regard to visitors to the USA and firearms. A visitor to the USA, cannot borrow, possess or rent a firearm unless in possession of an ATF Form 6NIA and/or a stateside hunting license (any state).
The next time your at a shoot and a Canadian wants to purchase the firearm you have for sale and he tells you no big deal...
It will be the seller (you) who will have to tap dance if the firearm is involved in an incident or stolen in Canada or found not to be registered in Canada and it's traced back to the seller in the USA (you)and no FFL was involved nor export/import permits accomplished.