Thursday, January 31, 2008

Remington 1100 cycling problems

I receive traffic on the question on what to do when a Remington 1100 fails to cycle the second shell. I own a few, had problems in the past and mentioned it from time to time.

Before I get started, you do know how to tear down a 1100? I've been to a few shoots where the shooter did not how to remove the bolt assembly when we took it off the line to see what the problem was. Each 1100 was soaked in oil...

I'm sure I've replaced every part on an 1100 that could be replaced and still have problems from time to time.

One thing that seems to be constant is that if the gun is going to start having major problems it will start with Winchester AA 2-3/4 dram ammunition. The light Estates can also be a problem. I've had so many problems with Remington 1100's and Winchester AA's that I shy away from purchasing same when I need factory ammunition for the 1100.

A few years back I had the opportunity to purchase several cases of AA's that had been sitting in storage for ten years or more. The 1100 worked flawlessly. I don't know if its the powder they are using in current shells or a new hull design, but whatever it is, a sometime problem with the 1100's I own.

A shell that has always worked flawlessly, but not available to most, is Challenger shells. A small shell company located near Montreal.

Outside of ammunition, it could be as simple as replacing the Barrel Seal (O ring). I shoot with two on the tube with no problem.

Some shooters find they have more success using the old style Piston & Piston Seal assembly. Maybe a friend has one you can try off an older gun.

Try cleaning the two little holes on the barrel using a small drill bit. Clears out any buildup.

Before you start replacing parts, the first question is are you shooting the 1100 wet or dry?

Some peoples idea of wet is swimming pool wet and obviously in excess. Cut back on the liquids, especially in cold weather.

I shoot my 1100's dry, but with a coating of Breakfree.

I follow the directions listed on the container of Breakfree and give a final wipe down just prior to assembly.

I've learned that a little (very little) goes a long way. I just place some on a finger tip and apply in that manner. Use a rag if you prefer. I would not spray.

Two or three times a year you need to drop the trigger and give it a cleaning.

Usually you can get away with just a good wipe down of the trigger group without having to soak it. If you see any buildup it needs to be removed, but don't over do it in regard to lubricant. I had a 1100 a few years ago that was driving me crazy as it would not cycle properly, even after changing out parts. My friend Bob Howard told me to clean the trigger. The gun worked flawlessly the next time out.

You have a spring in the stock and one in the magazine. If you've owned an 1100 for a number of years and all of a sudden problems, the springs may be the cause.

I would first replace the one in the stock. Reached only after removing the pad. Give the area the spring sits a cleaning while your at it.

After replacing the spring in the stock you may have to shoot 4-6 boxes to break it in. Serious clay target shooters may want to consider a yearly replacement.

The experts can have you try a few other things, but hopefully you won't have too.

Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Palatka Skeet Club Shoot-Off Lights

The Florida club has been installing additional shoot-off lights on two fields for the past several weeks. It looks like they will be operational for the 4-gun Azalea Open NSSA skeet shoot starting on February 8th.

Tuesday, January 29, 2008

Skeet, 608 straight

Vermont shooter Gordie Adams taking part in the Underhill Rod & Gun Club winter skeet league had a long run of 608 targets. After the miss he ran the next 91 to finish the day with 99x100.

If at a skeet shoot this summer and you see a shooter on the field wearing parka, snow boots, and mittens thats just Gordie trying to recapture the magic.



I'm told that Gordie only ran 508 straight, but he will be donning his parka when he attends shoots this summer.

608 or 508, a pretty nice accomplishment...

First Aid at the gun club, is your club prepared?

What has your club planned in regard to treating emergencies prior to the arrival of EMT?

Your club does have a well stocked first-aid kit and you know what's in it, yes?

With many clubs in rural areas, closest emergency response is 15 minutes or more from the club, and the 15 minute starting only after the 911 call is placed. A full blown heart attack can see someone dead inside ten minutes.

Can anyone at the club treat the following or at least stabilize the situation?

1. Heat stroke
2. Bee sting
3. Eye contamination
4. Diabetic attack
5. Heart attack
6. Stroke
7. Frostbite

Not all require EMT response, such as a bee sting, but a person in some situations can have a server reaction and emergency treatment is required.

Is a CPR instruction poster tacked to a wall at the club?

I'm a firm believer that all clubs should have a Automated External Defibrillator (AED) on site, but clubs look at the cost (under $1,500) and lose interest. It's a shame as the downed person in ventricular fibrillation has ten minutes to live and most likely only five. Has your club even thought of making a purchase or look for someone to make a donation for an AED?

Year after year, club after club, I basically see the same people opening the club and/or running the shoots.

Have any attended a basic Red Cross course or know how to administer CPR?

Has the club offered to pay fees for Red Cross training for those involved with the weekly operation of the club?

If you go back to the club and mention this subject the question of liability will be raised. Most states in recent years have addressed this and unless you live in an odd ball state your club will not be held responsible for trying to save a life.

It's not thirty years ago.

We can save lives at the club if proper equipment and supplies is on hand and someone is available that has received basic training.

Monday, January 28, 2008

Cost of reloading components

This is not intended to show best prices, but to show where component prices are now compared to December 13, 2007 and where prices may be heading.

Graf & Sons unless noted (shipping included).

700X powder @ $105 (Dec 13)
$107.59 (now)

W209 primers @ $146. (Dec 13)
$149.99 (now)

Claybuster Wads 1oz @ $83. (Dec 13)
$82.99 (now)

Lead @ $38. (Gamaliel Dec 13)
$37.50 (Gamaliel Now, shipping not included)

* Graf & Sons prices for powder, primers, and wads. Includes shipping. Hazmat fee waived on 32 pounds of powder. They will ship primers with the powder order.

Sunday, January 27, 2008

World Bunker Trap listing

Christian Krämer of Germany is attempting to put together a listing of all Olympic Bunker traps in the world, to include maps and club webs sites (if any).

He will also list clubs that offer International Skeet and most likely just for Europe, sporting clays courses.

Rather a large undertaken and if I'm correct, a first, as I have not come across any site that list all bunkers in the world.

Here's the email address if you wish to pass along any information in regard to bunker trap or International skeet at your club. A lone wobble trap at your club is not Olympic bunker.

The site will be posted in German, but as I understand it an English section will also be offered. I volunteered my wife to proofread postings in English : )

I appreciate being asked to check out the English postings on the site, but Christian so far has had no problems with the English language in emails received.

I doubt he will make many mistakes. I would not be surprised if he had English in grade school as during my time in Germany most children were taking one or more languages. The only problem is he may have learned the Queens English and not American and that can lead to some interesting use of slang.

Christian needs your input to pull this off...



For those looking for US and Canada Bunkers....

Bunker Link

Another heart attack at a gun club

The discussion of a heart attack came up once again after a medical emergency at a club. Fortunately, the shooter was saved.

Unfortunately, I read some posting that may mislead in regard to saving a person.

I'm not a doctor, but I did take a look at this issue in the past and spent time doing research.

CPR is a must and so is the use of aspirin in many situations, but if a shooter is in ventricular fibrillation and a Automated External Defibrillator (AED) is not used in the first 10 minutes, the chances of saving a person are not good. A 50% save rate if used within the first 5 minutes.

Most clubs are not located in an area where response of under ten minutes by any emergency agency, to include police can be assured.

We (the layman) may have no idea if a person is experiencing ventricular fibrillation. All we know is the shooter is down and take it from there, but an AED atomically test for ventricular fibrillation and will shock the heart, if required.

Operating an AED is simple, done successfully even without formal training.

Yes, many are saved each year when suffering a heart attack and after administering CPR and maybe an aspirin, but they were not in complete ventricular fibrillation.

  • Sudden cardiac arrest differs from a heart attack in that it’s an electrical malfunction of the heart that triggers fatally abnormal heart rhythm.

  • Often, it’s the first hint of heart disease and accounts for roughly 340,000 deaths outside of health care settings each year.

    If your club does not have an AED I posted more indepth information in regard to the Automated External Defibrillator (AED):

    Automated External Defibrillator for Shooting Clubs
  • Friday, January 25, 2008

    Reasonable gun laws?

    The Liberal choices in regard to reasonable gun laws.

    1. Right to Bear Arms:

    a. Only when approved by a Judge

    b. Only when approved by local law enforcement.

    c. No one should be allowed.

    2. Firearm Storage:

    a. Guns stored in a safe.

    b. Guns stored at gun club.

    c. Guns stored at police department.

    3. Ammunition Sales:

    a. Firearms license required.

    b. Allowed, but sold with punitive tax.

    c. Ban the sale of ammunition.

    4. Liability:

    a. Hold manufacturers responsible.

    b. Hold FFL responsible.

    c. All the above.

    5. Long Guns:

    a. Semi-autos illegal.

    b. Dangerous looking guns illegal.

    c. All the above.

    6. Handguns:

    a. Magazine fed illegal.

    b. Ban all handguns.

    Thursday, January 24, 2008

    New skeet field in Florida

    A tease of a headline as I have not pinned down the exact location.

    I ran into someone who shot at the club this past weekend and he stated the lone skeet field had only been in use for a few weeks. They also have a trap field and he thought it had been operational for some time.

    Not much information was available on the internet. The club might be named the Volusia County Skeet & Trap Club, but I would not swear to it.

    I do know that its west of New Smyrna Beach, somewhere within several miles of the Cabbage Patch bar (Samsula) and it's open on weekends. I was told to take a right (coming from the north) at the 4-way intersection near the bar, proceed past two lights and I would see the sign for the club.

    From my readings the club was appoved in 2006. A lease operation, located on local government property.

    Two combination skeet and trap fields approved. A police range is also suppose to be in use.

    I will make a visit at some point and post a few photos and it's location.

    Tuesday, January 22, 2008

    Odds & Ends (Jan 22)

    Indian River (Florida) was given out nice looking awards for the PM Sporting Clays shoot held on January 19th.

    I picked up one for C2 and my wife received one for Hunter 2nd.


    For those shooting the Remington 1100. A flawless weekend at two shoots for my wife's 1100. A light cleaning on Saturday evening for the Sunday shoot.


    Some thought went into the building of the 2nd 5-Stand at Bradford (Florida). A recent addition.

    The state shoot will be held at the club in April.


    If you don't gain weight at a sporting clays shoot in Florida you've not staying around for the meals.


    A poster said I was wrong and a Canadian could directly purchase a firearm in the states and bring it to Canada.

    Here's what the ATF has posted:

    "A nonimmigrant alien generally MAY NOT purchase a firearm from an FFL or nonlicensee and take possession of the firearm in the United States. If you violate this prohibition, you could receive a maximum of 5 or 10 years of imprisonment, depending on the violation."

    "If you are not eligible to purchase a firearm from an FFL to possess in the United States, you MAY NOT have someone who is eligible purchase one for you. If you violate this prohibition, both you and the person who purchases the firearm for you could receive a maximum of 5 or 10 years of imprisonment, depending on the violation."

    There other writings on the subject, put you get the point.

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse...

    Most Americans most likely are not aware of the law, but an FFL is risking his business and knows better.

    Saying that, if you can get the firearm to the border, Canadian Customs from past postings does not care if the firearm is being exported legally from the U.S., as long as you properly register the firearm in Canada and pay any required duties.

    All I can do is lay out the law and you have to decide the downside if you get caught breaking them.

    Unless a new gun, what's it's history?

    Was it stolen or involved in a past crime. Just hope it never comes up on a Law Enforcement watch list, or if purchased via an FFL, he gets busted at some point down the road.


    The U.S. spot market for lead is at $1.12.

    I don't know if that price will be much help to clay target shooters as it seems all ammunition price increases have been passed on and it may be sometime, if ever we see a reduction in prices. Well, not all as I was reading of a 15% increase on an imported brand of ammunition in the next month.

    Those that reload are hoping for a reduction in price for a bag of lead.

    Those on a fixed income or on the edge financially may have to make some hard choices in regard to the shooting sports in 2008.

    I understand that clubs have to charge accordingly as expenses increase, but shooters expect more bang for the buck when prices go beyond a certain point.

    Sporting clays seems to be able to raise prices to a point, but lets face it, skeet and trap, especially for the registered side has a breaking point as once certain price barriers are passed, shooters participation decreases. Time to rethink the shoot and what in the past was free, but included in the price may have to be charged separately.

    Maybe it's time for local clubs to beat the bushes once again and try to add a sponsor or two...

    Monday, January 21, 2008

    Jan 20th @ Bradford Farms Sporting Clays

    A cold, blustery day at Bradford Sportsmen's Farm.

    The temperature never saw 50 and that's cold for Florida. If not for the wind, not to bad, but the cold wind just did us in. I saw several shooters who had participated at the Indian River shoot just that Saturday, where the temperature was in the 80's. One shooter told me he ran over to Wal-Mart that morning and purchased a sweat shirt.

    We did not have the proper clothing and felt the cold. A winter shooting jacket or a lite set of long johns would have done the trick.

    Yes, I know much of the north is going through a sub-zero cold snap and would love to see it at 45 degrees, but down here they start issuing bulletins on the news on how to survive the cold when it goes below 40 degrees.

    The club as is the norm held two NSCA sporting clays shoots in one day, on two different courses.

    We shot in the PM on the north course.

    The north course was laid over the clubs 600 yard rifle range, to include a side road on each end. I was told only the second time the range was used for sporting clays. The club has a permanent east and west course.

    No eye test and always plenty of time to shoot the second target on a true pair.

    I don't remember any machine problems and the staff was all over the place making sure no machine ran low on targets.

    New to the club was the entrance gate and a additional 5-stand.

    The new elevated 5-stand is impressive and all machines cordless. It looked like repairs had been done to the old 5-stand, but not sure. I did see lights for evening shooting on the old 5-stand and not sure if they were in place last year.

    The club will host the Florida State Shooting in April. A first for the club.

    The area where the parcours will be located was pointed out and I think the FITASC crowd will be very pleased. Seventy five targets to be thrown. A good distance from the main building and shooters most likely allowed to drive there vehicles to a staging area, but I only assume as I did not ask.

    Shoot Photos

    Not as many photos as I nomally take, but enough to give you a sense of the club.

    When traveling to the shoot the local Wal-Mart, maybe ten minutes from the club, was selling gas for $2.99 a gallon, as was several stations in the area. Prices dropped to that level in just the past few days at many stations in the region. The average had been $3.10 a gallon. When departing I saw the Wal-Mart station had dropped the price to $2.97.

    Sunday, January 20, 2008

    Jan 19th @ Indian River Sporting Clays

    The Indian River Skeet & Trap Club in Vero Beach, Florida held two NSCA sporting clay shoots in one day.

    Two shoots, at totally different targets. We walked the course while the AM shooters were still out and much effort was made to change the course for the PM shoot.

    The AM shoot saw 106 shooters and a PM shoot had 60 plus in attendance.

    As it was a 2hr 40min drive, we elected to take in the PM shoot.

    A welcoming bunch at the club. We knew two people at the shoot. When we departed, we knew a couple dozen.

    Shooters from the Flagler club took us under there wing and invited us to join there squad.

    The wind picked up a bit in the afternoon with temperatures in the low 80s.

    From what I could see a well run shoot and plenty of help, to include the local 4H club.

    The shooting stands were in excellent condition.

    I saw a few changes chokes, but basically an IC course. I shot in the 70's and took C2.

    My wife won Hunter 2nd.

    A few photos.

    For those with a Garmin GPS, coming from the north and once off of I-95, my GPS took me into farm country and roads meant for tractors. Ignore the GPS when it first tells you to turn right and drive to 66 street, then take your right (south).

    We hit a hard rain on the way home.

    Friday, January 18, 2008

    Shooting range hours

    Many clubs are lucky and have no restrictions on hours of shooting other than maybe a state law that restricts shooting hours. Maybe no shooting prior to X hour and no shooting after X hour.

    Pretty reasonable and something that all can live with.

    However, some club have limits on hours of operation as agreed upon in lease agreement, or as required by local government or formal agreements reached with neighbors.

    I know of a few clubs where shooting on Friday is not allowed. One club may not start shooting prior to 11am. Some clubs have limits on hours during the week and may not shoot on certain holidays.

    Unfortunately, when the agreements were agreed upon no consideration was given for registered or league shooting. Kind of hard to have a Wednesday league when the club can't shoot after 5pm or to shoot doubles in skeet when Friday shooting is not allowed.

    That's not why I write.

    Some clubs are very liberal on whom they let shoot at the club, with many such shooters having a key or the combination to the club and allowed to shoot at other than posted hours.

    All for the good, but neighbors are aware when shooting is taking place outside of posted hours and if the club by agreement or law has restricted hours, those same neighbors may make a formal complaint with local authorities.

    Can your club withstand such a complaint and the legal cost or further restrictions that may occur?

    Many non-shooters or those not happy to be living in the area of a shooting range are looking for any excuse to close the club. Don't give them the ammunition they need to make it so.

    Ensure all club members are aware of restrictions on hours of shooting.

    Wednesday, January 16, 2008

    Wal-Mart ammunition

    I receive a number of inquiries in regard to ammunition and Wal-Mart.

    Yes, many Wal-Mart stores sell ammunition, to include stores in Canada, but you do need to check your local store.

    For many it could be the best choice, especially if your only alternative is Gander Mountain.

    I shopped Wal-Mart yesterday and they were still selling Remington value packs for under $20. That's equal to $50 a case, before tax.

    The AA & STS ammunition was about $.40 lower per box than Gander Mountain.

    I've read the Wal-Mart department manager can arrange for purchases of ammunition by the case.

    As for Canadians who wish to drop down to the states and purchase ammunition to import into Canada as it may be the best deal, the short answer is, it's not legal.

    A Canadian with an ATF Form 6NIA or in his/her possession a stateside hunting license from any state can purchase ammunition for use in the states, but will require a export permit for the ammunition if they wish to return to Canada with it. This includes ammunition won by or given too the Canadian.

    From my experience, not something high on the US customs checklist, but if you happen to be stopped at a random US border patrol checkpoint on your way north you may have some explaining to do.


    The current U.S. spot market for lead is $1.15 per pound. A rather large drop in the last week. Based on the concern about a possible recession in the US.

    Tuesday, January 15, 2008

    Citigroup; anti-gun, ignorant, or just being cute?

    I recommend you cease use of Citi® Credit Cards for any and all transactions because if you use a Citi® Credit Card to purchase a firearm the transaction will be rejected if the order is placed via the internet, mail order, or telephone.

    Citigroup's stated position is they will only approve facetoface firearm transactions.

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation has challenged the company on this policy.


    As first reported on the NSSF website.

    January 7, 2008


    REFUSES TO PROCESS TRANSACTIONS . . . Citi Merchant Services and First Data Corp. are refusing to process any credit card transactions between federally licensed firearms retailers, distributors and manufacturers -- a move which will severely limit available inventory of firearms and ammunition to military, law enforcement and law-abiding Americans.

    The first company to be affected by this decision appears to be firearms distributor CDNN Sports Inc.

    "We were contacted recently by First Data/Citi Merchant Services by a June Rivera-Mantilla stating that we were terminated and funds were being seized for selling firearms in a non-face-to-face transaction," said Charlie Crawford, president of CDNN Sports Inc. "Although perfectly legal, we were also informed that no transactions would be processed in the future, even for non-firearms. I find this very frightening."

    To voice your concern to Citi Merchant Services and First Data Corp., please call 303-488-8000 or toll-free 800-735-3362.

    Citigroups Response.

    We respectfully request that you remove the posting from your website regarding Citi Merchant Services and First Data Corp. As detailed below, the posting is inaccurate.

    Citi Merchant Services and First Data do process firearms transactions.

    Our policy restrictions address only the sale of firearms in a non facetoface environment.

    Non facetoface transactions occur when a cardholder is not present in front of a merchant and includes mail order and online purchases.

    It is our policy not to service merchants that make non facetoface sales in a number of industries, including firearms.

    It is not the policy of Citi Merchant Services or First Data to refuse to process transactions from duly licensed merchants that sell firearms in facetoface transactions at the point of sale.


    National Shooting Sports Foundation Response

    Your antigun corporate policy is based on ignorance of the law applicable to the sale of firearms.

    It is perfectly legal, in fact commonplace, for a federal firearms licensee in one state to sell a firearm to a nonlicensee (consumer) from another state.

    What you fail to appreciate is that the firearm is not shipped in interstate commerce directly to the consumer. Rather, as required by federal law, the firearm is shipped by the selling licensee to another federal firearms licensee in the state of residence of the consumer who is purchasing the firearm. The consumer acquires the firearm from that licensed dealer in a facetoface transaction after completion of a Firearms Transaction Record, commonly referred to as an ATF Form 4473, and a federally mandated background check to ensure that the purchaser is legally permitted to buy the firearm.

    Furthermore, the policy of First Data and Citi Merchant Services interferes with the receiving and shipping of inventory from and to federally licensed firearms retailers, distributors and manufacturers. This inventory supplies not only lawabiding Americans, but military and law enforcement agencies as well. June Rivera Mantilla’s original correspondence contained so many errors that one could only deduce that it was an uniformed mistake that would consequently be corrected.

    Instead, we learned yesterday that First Data Corporation and Citi Merchant Services stands behind the policy, which affects not only firearms retailers, manufacturers and distributors, but also law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels of government and lawabiding citizens.

    NSSF will not remove its Web posting nor will we rescind or alter our story. However, if we receive written confirmation from you that, after having researched the law, First Data and Citi Merchant Services have changed their corporate policy, we will consider publishing that fact in a followup story.


    Citigroup Posts Record Loss on $18 Billion Writedown

    Jan. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc. posted the biggest loss in the U.S. bank's 196-year history as surging defaults on home loans forced it to write down the value of subprime-mortgage investments by $18 billion.

    The fourth-quarter net loss of $9.83 billion, or $1.99 a share, compared with a profit of $5.1 billion, or $1.03, a year earlier, the largest U.S. bank said today in a statement. New York-based Citigroup also reduced its dividend by 41 percent, cut 4,200 jobs and obtained $14.5 billion from outside investors to shore up depleted capital.

    The results are ``unacceptable,'' Chief Executive Officer Vikram Pandit, who was installed in December after Charles ``Chuck'' Prince stepped down amid mounting subprime losses, said on a conference call with analysts and investors. ``We need to do better, and we will.''

    Monday, January 14, 2008

    Do you have a Jim Chapman at your club?

    Vermont shooters visiting the Sportsman's Club of Franklin County are most likely to run into Jim Chapman.

    A mainstay of the club and the person most responsible for the clubs success and it's modernization in recent years.

    Jim has many fine qualities, but the one I most admire is that he always welcomes shooters with open arms. Sounds good in theory but not always the case at many clubs.

    Snowing, raining, or 5 minutes before closing; if you want to shoot Jim is raring to go.

    If a new shooter to the club has shot in the past, he will see they are squadded, and if new to the sport will take them to an empty field and get them started.

    No gun, just checking out the club or visiting as your thinking of taken up shooting as a hobby?

    No problem, as Jim will reach into his vehicle and pull out a spare, as he does not want you to leave without shooting a round.

    In my travels, I see what are obviously new shooters or those interested in shooting as a new activity, who arrive at a club and are basically ignored by the regulars. They never return!

    Not the case at the Sportsman's Club of Franklin County.

    Jim's not the only one at the club that welcomes new shooters, but until Jim arrived on the scene this was not always the case.

    Every club needs a Jim Chapman...

    Hats off, Vermont Skeet Shooter Jim Chapman

    Vermonter honored for service to outdoors

    Sunday, January 13, 2008

    Odds & Ends (Jan 13)

    Dick's in Jacksonville is not ammunition friendly as Dick's I have visited in the North, but I asked and they did confirm 10% discount on all cases sold. This was not advertised and I had to ask.

    By the way, clubs can get discounts on ammunition orders at many Dick's and Gander Mountains. Maybe something to look into.


    My wife shoots her 1100 for sporting clays.

    Only two failures to load the second shell after 225 shots using RIO shells in the past two weeks.

    At the 100 mark I just opened it up and gave it a quick wipe down.

    Break Free has been doing the trick, but as I have previously stated, you must use it sparingly, as any excess will cause feed problems. Also, drop that trigger once or twice a year and give it a good cleaning.


    I was asked by a shooter if I had shot at XYZ club?

    When I said no, I don't normally shoot at that club, he replied.

    "They do have there clicks"

    I thought I was the only one who noticed...

    The previous week I was asked the same question, but for a different club.

    When I answered no, the shooter replied, "I understand"

    Two different clubs and two different shooters asking the question...

    I want all clubs to do well, but when outsiders visit your club and have a negative view, something is not right.

    Before you go all out defending XYZ club, visit them when they don't have a shoot scheduled, you may go away with a different impression.

    Do your club a favor. If on a short squad and you see someone driving into the parking lot, why not ask if he liked to shoot. He may turn out to be the biggest jerk you ever meant, but it's 99% he will be one of the good guys.


    We shot skeet at Palatka on Wednesday. A nice day and we had a five man practice squad. Almost a bit too warm as it hit 80.

    The club was expecting a load of targets on Thursday.


    We made it back to Amelia Shotgun Sports and shot the 5-stand.

    Tough targets in comparison to the sporting clays course.

    All targets below your feet and with a bit of speed. Not much height and for the most part flat.

    As we were not doing a formal round, I finally just called and shot one target at a time, no second shots or report pairs, just trying to get my grove.


    Also at Amelia. I saw that further work had been done on the trap houses. With the partially built building that I saw last week now sporting a roof and the second trap house now has walls. It looks like the fields have been leveled in preparation for pads.


    Scheduled for a Sporting Clays shoot on Saturday and another on Sunday.

    The weather is looking great for the Saturday shoot, but hoping for a better forecast for Sunday.

    A first time visit for the Saturday shoot and will most likely not know anyone, but it should be fun. Well, I might know one or two shooters as a Canadian I know may be in attendance. I hope so, as it can be rough not knowing anyone...


    Gator (Florida) has installed new skeet machines and the second Olympic bunker is operational.

    Looks like a good excuse to pay a visit...

    Gander Mountain & ammunition

    One last time on this and than time to move on as all know my feelings on Gander Mountains punitive pricing polices in regard to ammunition and components.

    A store where you only purchase shooting supplies in an emergency!

    I visited yesterday and the cheapest 12 gauge ammunition was Estates going for $5.99 a box.

    AA and STS was $7.99 a box. If I remember correctly Gun Clubs were $6.99.

    I did not see any value packs.

    Lead was $49.99.

    The last time I visited Dick's, AA and STS were priced $1 lower per box then Gander Mountain and had a sale on non-premium ammunition (they always seem to have a sale).

    If you have no other options may I suggest a visit to your local Walmart. If nothing else they seem to always have a good price on value packs.

    Spend your money wisely!

    Friday, January 11, 2008

    Polar bear hunting, yes or no?

    I'm a firm believer that Global Warming is being used to push a socialist agenda that would tax the wealth of nations, promote a one world central government, and outlaw gun ownership.

    Pursued by those that want a world tax on gasoline and internet use, and open borders around the world. The most radical who wish to stop development, outlaw zoos and the killing of fish and all animals, to include cattle.

    An agenda that has been pushed for many years by the left, but under other names and causes.

    A push as being going forth for the past few years to stop polar bear hunting under the assumption that world populations are being affected by Global Warming and any hunting would further deplete the population.

    As always I want to know the bottom line of such proposals.

    It's hard to find the truth if just reading the New York Times or the Washington Post, as they have a habit of pushing the liberal agenda.

    Reading the world press is almost a must if you wish to read both sides of almost any issue..

    Now it seems the reason for such a ban is seeing the light of day.

    Senator describes the change as backed by anti-developers

    The Associated Press

    Published: January 11th, 2008

    FAIRBANKS -- U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens said listing polar bears as threatened under the federal Endangered Species Act could block development of an Alaska natural gas pipeline.

    Stevens, R-Alaska, said a listing would affect oil and gas leasing on Alaska's North Slope and possibly offshore and even block the proposed pipeline, a mega-project many Alaskans hope will be the state's next big boom.

    "If the polar bear is listed, its habitat will be subject to new criteria as far as any development, and the major development being considered today in the polar bear habitat is the Alaska gas pipeline," Stevens said.

    Stevens described the listing as unnecessary and backed largely by environmentalists bent on blocking development projects.

    Listing the species as "threatened" or "endangered" would make the polar bear's habitat subject to special protection and could add a base for litigation aimed at halting development projects, Stevens said. It would affect leasing in the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska and could affect development off Alaska's northern shore.

    A listing relating to a loss of habitat driven by climate change could ultimately impose restrictions on any activity that produced greenhouse gases, he said.


    From an article in 2006...

    Polar bear worries unproven, expert says

    CBC News

    Delving into the patterns of polar bear eating habits, ice floe loss, population densities and other issues, Taylor downplays the overall impact of climate change.

    "No evidence was presented by the proponents and no evidence exists that suggests that both bears and the conservation systems that regulate them will not adapt and respond to the new conditions," he said. "Polar bears have persisted through many similar climate cycles."

    He said no one is suggesting that climate change isn't affecting some polar bear populations, but noted there are 20 polar bear populations in the world and each one should be considered independently.

    "The references listed suggest that each polar bear population is unique with respect to seasonal cycles, sea ice conditions, prey base, summer-retreat areas, and fidelity," he wrote.

    "The 20 existing populations of polar bears are not all identical to the two populations that constitute the majority of the examples in the petition.

    Taylor says many of the groups filing the petition have a long history of opposing hunting.

    He said Canada has one of the best management systems for polar bears in the world, allowing Inuit to hunt in a sustainable manner and generating $3.5 million in Canada through sport hunts and the sale of hides.

    "At present, the polar bear is one of the best-managed of the large Arctic mammals," Taylor said. "If all the Arctic nations continue to abide by the terms and intent of the Polar Bear Agreement, the future of polar bears is secure."

    Taylor noted the estimated number of bears on the Boothia Peninsula, 1,300 kilometres west of Iqaluit, has actually increased to 1,500 animals from 900. He said environmental groups don't seem to want to take information like that into consideration when pressing their case.

    "Life may be good, but good news about polar bear populations does not seem to be welcomed by the Centre for Biological Diversity," he said.


    Update February 3, 2008

    Alaska disputes polar bears need special protection

    - McClatchy Newspapers -

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Ken Taylor has had easier jobs than this one. It's not like the good old days chasing rhinos, climbing into bear dens and wrestling beluga whales in shallow water.

    These days, sitting at a desk as deputy commissioner of fish and game, the veteran wildlife biologist has to muster the best science he can find to argue that Alaska's polar bears are in good shape and need no special protection from hypothetical doomsday scenarios.

    This requires Taylor to stand up to the prevailing wisdom about global warming in most of the world's scientific community and the public — not to mention some pretty strong opinions in his own department.

    But Taylor, point man on polar bears in Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's administration, argues that the scientific justification simply isn't there — at least not yet — to declare the polar bear "threatened" and touch off a cascade of effects under the Endangered Species Act. A decision on the bears is expected from the U.S. Department of the Interior in the next few weeks.

    45-year projection a stretch

    "From my perspective, it's very difficult to put a population on the list that's healthy, based on a projection 45 years into the future," Taylor says. "That's really stretching scientific credibility."

    The state's own scientific credibility hasn't been helped by the fact that the Fish and Game Department no longer has any polar bear experts of its own. Nor did it help that, when state officials found a scientific study reinforcing their polar bear stance, a congressional committee called a hearing to decry "phony science" and Exxon Mobil-funded "climate deniers."

    Still, Taylor has helped produce two reports in the past year arguing against an endangered-species listing.

    The state argues that there's too much uncertainty about the future of the Arctic ice sheet on which the polar bears depend. Explanations for global warming other than greenhouse-gas emissions, such as sunspots and variations in the Earth's orbit, need to be considered, the state says.

    And despite experts who call the idea "fanciful," the state argues that polar bears forced onto land might be able to adapt quickly by eating birds, caribou and other terrestrial species.

    "The country is being hit with sky-is-falling-type articles," said Taylor. "Very little attention is being given to those who say it's overblown."

    Palin is leading the state's fight. In an op-ed column in The New York Times earlier this month, she said there is "insufficient evidence" to justify such a listing — an opinion she said was based on "a comprehensive review" of the science by state wildlife officials.

    With limited peer-reviewed science available that concludes the bears are doing fine, however, the state devotes most of its space to challenging everyone else's work.

    That pits Taylor and his staff — and several national consultants from the warming-is-overblown camp — against polar bear biologists with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the U.S. Geological Survey and leading international authorities in the World Conservation Union's Polar Bear Specialist Group, not to mention the climatologists of the Nobel-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
    Studies by those scientists contend that Alaska's polar bear populations are already showing signs of stress and decline linked to summer melting of their ice habitat.
    Ice shrinkage models suggest that two-thirds of the world's polar bears will be gone by the year 2050. Scientists now say the Arctic ice may be melting even faster than that.

    The Palin administration's effort to block action by raising uncertainty has moved the state to the dubious margins of scientific credibility, according to environmentalists.

    "They're not presenting a fair picture of the science," said Deborah Williams, a former Interior Department official who now heads the climate nonprofit Alaska Conservation Solutions. "It's a terrible disservice, to release something so irresponsibly biased."

    National environmental groups sued to prompt the federal endangered-species review. They say the state is giving credibility to industry-funded dissenters whose studies are designed to confuse the public and the press.

    "The deniers somehow manage to get a very small number of such papers published, and then those who oppose greenhouse gas regulation or protection of the polar bear seize upon them and promote them and ignore the fact that virtually the entire scientific community disagrees with them," said Kassie Siegel, the climate program director for the Center for Biological Diversity.

    State's credibility at stake

    At stake is the state's credibility in other areas where a balanced view of science is important, such as predator control and oil-spill cleanups, said Rick Steiner, a professor with the University of Alaska Marine Advisory Program. A federal listing of the polar bear as threatened could have far-reaching consequences, depending on the management plan drawn up to protect the bears.

    State officials have expressed concern about effects a threatened-species listing could have on international hunting agreements and future oil and gas development in the Arctic.

    Sen. Ted Stevens echoed those concerns this month, saying bear protections could interfere with construction of a gas pipeline from the North Slope.

    Rep. Don Young and Sen. Lisa Murkowski have also spoken against the listing, which has been cited by opponents of a pending federal oil lease sale in Alaska's Chukchi Sea.

    Past oil drilling on northern lands has not hurt the polar bears, according to federal studies. Environmentalists counter that current interest in offshore Arctic drilling presents new risks, including oil spills into water.

    An even bigger question, spreading far beyond Alaska, is: How will a management plan protect the bears from anticipated habitat loss? Will it focus on new protections for the last few bears on land? Or will it provide new leverage over federal permits for projects in the Lower 48, raising challenges on everything from new freeways to coal-fired power plants — all in an effort to curb greenhouse gases?

    "When I voted for the creation of the Endangered Species Act in 1973, I never envisioned that gas and coal plants in the deserts of Arizona could be adversely affected by the listing of polar bears in the Alaskan Arctic," Young said this month.

    The Center for Biological Diversity and other environmental groups say this is just the result they hope for: using the polar bear to address global climate issues. Anything less and the bears are doomed, they say.

    Federal officials say there is nothing in the law to preclude listing species threatened by climate change. They say this is the first time such a listing might be made.

    Both sides in the debate agree that polar bear population data are scarce.
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    Lead recovery, clay target shooting

    A handful of companies will harvest lead.

    However, you have to plan for this and I was told to not even contact them unless you have shot 2,000,000 targets in a designated area, such as over skeet or trap fields.

    A club recently found the majority of shot was falling in the tree line, not in the cleared area in front of the fields.

    They had the recommended 300 yard shot fall zone, and the tree line was far enough away so it did not interfere with shooting, but the majority of shot was falling where it could not be economically recovered.

    Not saying you have to clear 300 yards in front of the fields, but you do need to know where the majority of shot falls and plan accordingly.

    Most clubs make out in regard to shot recovery, as they either receive cash or a percentage of shot recovered.

    Don't be a club that losses money on such a project.

    Wednesday, January 09, 2008

    Canadian firearm dealers who ship to US?

    Is anyone aware of a Canadian dealer or gun shop in addition to Questar, that will ship firearms to a FFL in the states?

    If so, please send an email with appropriate information.

    Sunday, January 06, 2008

    Jan 6th @ Amelia Shotgun Sports

    My wife and I paid a first time visit to Amelia Shotgun Sports in Yulee, Florida. Located just North of Jacksonville.

    The club is still under construction.

    A diamond in the rough is a good description of the facility.

    A 15 station sporting clays course is up and running. Another 12-14 stations are planned.

    All stations were on the ground (no platforms). Two stations had rabbits.

    I was told a number of machines are moved every two weeks or so.

    The club will have two combination skeet & trap fields. The skeet buildings are built and the trap houses are started, but no pads have been poured.

    The 5-stand is something to see.

    I took a few photos of the 5-stand, but they did not do it justice. It may have one of the best layouts in the region.

    Nine stations and located on a ridge overlooking a wide open space.

    You can just let your imagination run wild on possible machine locations and target presentations. An evil target setter could have the time of his life : )

    I did not shoot it, but next time...

    At some point a FITASC parcour is planned.

    The club is open on Saturdays and Sundays with a Grand Opening sometime in February.

    I posted several photos. As I said, the club is still under construction and no landscaping has been done and plenty of dirt still needs to be moved.

    The club is six-seven minutes from I-95 and easy to find. A new access road is being built, maybe 100 yards south of the present entrance.

    As of today the main building is not open.

    I would suggest a stop at one of the fast food places upon exiting I-95 before proceeding to the club.

    I did not see any carts for rent, but it's Florida and not really a need for one unless you have a medical condition. I think they do have a few hand carts that can be lent. I'm sure something is planned in regard to carts...

    A new Gander Mountain store is fifteen miles south of the club.

    Saturday, January 05, 2008

    Jan 5th @ Palatka

    Upon arrival we were asked if we could take three new shooters under are wing.

    No problem...

    New Shooters

    I would have liked to have done a bit more hands on with the new guys before taking them out, but we did slow down the pace and hopefully everyone enjoyed themselves.

    The first two rounds we skipped doubles for the most part and gave a number of show birds.

    We shot three rounds.

    A good bunch and would be more than happy to shoot with them again, as it made for a very enjoyable afternoon.


    Club volunteers were putting in the wiring for additional lighting on the clubs two shoot-off fields. It looks like two additonal poles are planned for each field.


    I had mentioned previously the clubs empty trap house.

    The club at one time had one 27-yard trap field, but at some point the machine was pulled, along with the trap house roof.

    2008 will once again see the trap field in operation.

    A Winchester Basket Trap will be installed. One of the clubs members is getting it into shape and another member will install a new roof. I was also told there was some minor electrical problem that needed to be addressed.

    I asked about voice release and that was not in the immediate plans.

    Hopefully, someone will donate a set as that's the way to go. With voice release no one needs to sit in the chair to pull targets (and no one really wants to). I'm not aware of any small club that after they installed a voice release that didn't see an increase in number of targets thrown.

    I don't know the planned date for completion, but at some point Florida will have an additional club offering trap.

    One thing noticeable in this region is the lack of small feeder clubs for ATA trap.

    With Palatka's one field and the two planned at Amelia Shotgun Sports, future shoots in the region may see a few new faces.

    Friday, January 04, 2008

    Eye protection

    A comment was made after reviewing photos of a shoot I posted that some shooters were not wearing eye protection.

    Not uncommon and I see it more then most would expect.

    Clubs have signs posted stating that ear and eye protection is required. However, at some clubs this is not enforced, especially for practice and during fun shoots.

    Two weeks after the comment was made I was at a turkey shoot and a skeet shooter (wearing glasses) standing on station #4 took a pellet in the chin, drawing blood.

    Wear those glasses...

    Thursday, January 03, 2008

    Flagler expands it's trap shooting operation

    The Flagler Gun & Archery Club is pushing ahead on its plans to become part of the Florida ATA "CHAIN" in 2009.

    The club built additional fields and purchased two Pat Traps, reconditioned by Vince at Silver Dollar.

    The new additions will give Flagler four (4) fields with a 5th field (combination trap and skeet) later this year.

    As you can see from this years schedule (2008), Flagler as part of the "CHAIN" on the first weekend in February would fit in nicely.

    Jan 22-27: CCC Miami

    Feb 6-10: Jacksonville

    Feb 12-17: Gator

    The plan for this year (2008) is for a "tune-up" for next years planned CHAIN shoot.

    Practice on January 29, 30 and 31. Registered targets on Feb. 1, 2 and 3.

    Camping will be free at the primitive sites and $10.00 a night for water and electric sites (10 available). There is a dump station at the Love's truck stop at US 1 and I 95.

    One of Flagler's club member owns Thunder Gulch Camp grounds about 10 minutes from the club on US 1 in Bunnel. He will give special rates to shooters that want full hookups.

    Jack Krouskroup (954-494-0967) will open the facility on Monday (January 28, 2008) for campers.

    Campers that will arrive late need to call Jack.

    The club will be open thru the rest of the week.

    Tuesday thru Thursday practice, Friday thru Sunday registered.

    Friday will be 200 singles and 100 caps.
    Saturday will be 200 singles and 100 caps.
    Sunday 100 singles, 100 caps, 100 doubles.

    The event schedule will be posted to the Flagler Gun & Archery Club web site in the next few days.


    I've shot at the club (even won a few dollars).

    Nice background and excellent targets.

    Located between St. Augustine and Daytona Beach, but inland.

    An easy drive from 95.


    Wednesday, January 02, 2008

    International Skeet & Bunker Clinic @ Gator

    Tom Baber passes along that the Gator Skeet & Trap Club (Florida) will host a International Skeet Clinic on February 5-7. Classes conducted by Todd Graves .

    Also scheduled is a Olympic Bunker Trap Clinic on February 19-21. Bret Erickson will conduct the trap clinic.

    You can take either a one day clinic or a two day clinic, or receive individual instruction by the hour.

    Details / Flyer

    In addition, the club will be hosting both the Southeast Regional International Skeet and Bunker Trap events in February. February 8-10 for International Skeet and February 22-24 for Bunker Trap.

    Gator Skeet & Trap Website


    If you have not visited in recent years the club has seen major improvements (spent big bucks).

    They added a second Olympic Bunker (15 machines) and replaced the old style Winchester skeet machines with modern NASTA Machines.

    The club also streamlined it's website.


    If you have never shot Olympic Bunker trap, this is the club to give it a try.

    The Bunkers shooters are friendly and very helpful. I walked in cold two years ago and was squadded as soon as I asked if I could shoot.

    In regard to shells, you can shoot 1 1/8 if thats your choice or the Olympic standard. You can purchase shells at the club or bring your own.