Thursday, February 28, 2008

Be prepared to pay extra when flying with a firearm

United Airlines and US Airways are going to start charging you a fee for a second checked bag. Other airlines are expected to follow suit.

Immediately comes to mind is hunters and target shooter's who check in a rifle or shotgun when flying to there designation.

A posting from the US Airways website...

US Airways:

US Airways announced that it will begin assessing a $25 fee for a passenger’s second checked bag. Passengers can continue to check one bag free of charge. The fee applies to travel that occurs on or after May 5, 2008. Travelers who purchased travel on or before Feb. 26 for travel on or after May 5 are exempt from the policy change.

The $25 second checked bag fee does not apply to:

- All Dividend Miles Preferred members (Silver, Gold, Platinum and Chairman’s Preferred)
- Confirmed First Class and Envoy passengers at time of check-in
- Star Alliance Silver and Gold status members
- Active military personnel in uniform with ID
- Unaccompanied minors
- Passengers checking personal assistive devices

Is there an additional charge for bags checked beyond two?

The first bag is free, and the second bag is $25. Each bag after the second bag (3-9) will be assessed a $100 fee.

Does $25 cover one way or roundtrip?

You'll be assessed the fee each time you check more than one bag. So if you're flying a roundtrip itinerary and checking two bags, the $25 fee will be collected on both your original and return trip totaling $50 for both ways.

Will skis and golf clubs be assessed the $25 fee?

So long as they are a second checked baggage item, yes. If these items are the only checked item, they would be free of charge pending weight and dimension limits. Learn more about traveling with special items.


United Airlines:

United is announcing a new checked bag policy for customers who purchase nonrefundable domestic economy tickets.

Customers purchasing nonrefundable domestic economy tickets who do not have status in Mileage Plus or Star Alliance may check one bag for free and a second bag for a $25 service fee.

Customers who have attained Premier status or higher in Mileage Plus or who have Silver status and above with a Star Alliance partner, are exempt from this policy change. This policy is for travel exclusively within the 50 United States, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and Canada and applies to tickets purchased on or after February 4, 2008 for travel on or after May 5, 2008.

All customers traveling on United may check at least one free bag.


It's been suggested for those who need to check two bags, as all clothing will just not be able to be carry on.

Purchase a split bag (case) with two compartments. Use one compartment for your firearm and the other for your clothing. Staying under the 50 pound weight limit.

Another alternative is to ship the firearm to yourself by just dropping it off at the local post office. On the mailing lable:

c/o Mother Doe Gun Club
123 Somewhere Street
City, ST 12345

Use the address of the post office at your designation, or gun club, motel, hunting guide, or what have you. It's legal under federal law and a FFL is not required. Your the only one who can legally open the package.

Price for a bag of lead goes higher

Gamaliel's price for a bag of lead as of Feb 28.

$42 - Lawrence Brand Chilled Shot

$42.50 - Lawrence Brand Magnum Shot

Tax and shipping not included.

A $2 pop from the last time I checked.

A few months back they also sold another brand of lead that was maybe a dollar cheaper, but it's no longer listed.

Gamaliel's does not necessarily have the best prices on reloading suppies, as I find them on the high side, but a good indicator on where prices are headed.


Connie's in Washington usually has a deal on Northwest Magnum and worth a look if your paying over $40 a bag (delivered), but they have a notice up that they are out of stock and to check back in early March.


The U.S. spot market price for lead is $1.53 per pound.

Tuesday, February 26, 2008

Guns in national parks?

Visitors to Rocky Mountain, Mesa Verde and Great Sand Dunes national parks in Colorado could soon be allowed to carry guns.

Under pressure from the gun lobby and 50 senators — including Sen. Wayne Allard of Colorado — the Bush administration is preparing to change the regulation banning guns in national parks.

Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has directed his department to rewrite the policy for the national parks, with the idea that federal regulations should "mirror" state laws on guns in parks. That would mean guns could be allowed in national parks in states where they are allowed in state parks.

Colorado allows guns in its state parks, as do about two dozen other states, including much of the West.

Park rangers oppose the idea of guns in national parks, said George Durkee, board member with the U.S. Park Rangers Lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police.

"People overreact and shoot at the animals," Durkee said. "We don't need any scared kids with guns running around the woods."


We've hiked in the Rocky Mountains a number of years back and always carried a sidearm. It seemed almost stupid if we did not.

Unlike the Northeast where your reminded of rush hour traffic on most if not all trails, when hiking in the Rockies it was rare to run into someone except on the most popular trails. Assistance from fellow hikers if a problem arose would not be forthcoming.

In 2008, on many trails or camping areas we have those who stalk hikers and campers, either on the trail or parking areas.

Hikers and campers are considered easy pickings for those looking for an easy score to get money for there next drug buy or just to terrorize or rob with no fear of reprisal.

Even in parks that are well traveled in the east, many are near populated areas where the criminal element find it an easy walk or drive to steal a GPS, cell phone, or the cash carried by most visitors, or to find the lone women using the local trail to get in her daily run.

Carrying a gun to protect from wild animals is one reason to allow firearms in national parks, but it's not the reason I carried a gun.

Guns in national parks, you bet...

Monday, February 25, 2008

New Nevada Shooting Range in Clark County

I've been following the protest in the news against the proposed shooting complex in Clark County, Nevada, north of Vegas.

For all practical purposes it seemed they were just spinning there wheels as it looked like a done deal with all local politicians on board.

A posting in states that construction has started.

Something for everyone at the complex, not just for shotgun shooters.

A listing of the Clay Target Shooting facilities:

- 24 combination Trap and Skeet fields.

- Sporting Clay Courses (4)

- International Trap Bunkers (3): Designed for international traps, these bunkers include shade ramadas and night lightning.

- Trap Fields (101): Standard trap fields with shade ramadas for every two fields. Every group of 24 includes a 1,500-foot classroom/restroom combination building. These ranges also include 405 full service RV hook up sites.

An up to-date fact sheet (February 2008):

Clark County Shooting Park Information (PDF)

Sunday, February 24, 2008

Feb 24 @ WW Sporting Clays

We shot practice at WW Sporting Clays.

About fifteen cars in the parking lot when we pulled in, with a squad on the skeet field and another on the 5-stand. We could hear shooting off in the distance, coming from one of the two sporting clays courses.

Lunch is available on weekends and a few shooters were chowing down.

It's been a year and as I approached the main building I was greeted by Ken as if I had just visited the week before.

It's a toss up on what club is the most friendliest in the region, WW Sporting or Bradford Farm.

Both clubs have their following. I've never heard a bad word spoken against either. Whoever is running either club on any given day is 100 percent people friendly, with Ken always seeming to be running WW Sporting.

We shot 100 sporting clays targets.

An elevated shooting platform was added to one of the stations since our last visit.

Station #4.

Very evident was the number of shooters in there 20's and 30's. A number of women shooters were also present.

I talked to a few of the young guys and they said they shot some skeet or trap in the past, but once they shot 5-stand they started looking for a sporting clays course. A few others were at the club because Jacksonville was having a skeet shoot. Jacksonville has 5-stand but no sporting clays course.

Two of the "young guys" we ran into...

All machines were working. Two workers went around the course while we were shooting and topped off the machines.

Vehicles had come and gone while we were shooting. When we departed there was still fifteen or more vehicles in the parking lot with two shooters waiting to use the skeet field.

What I've seen at this club in the past is that when a new shooter is present or they have not shot for a while, they head over to the skeet field and get in a round of practice before shooting the course.

Sunny day with the temperature hitting 80. A slight breeze so it did not seem that warm. No humidity to speak of.

Saturday, February 23, 2008

Feb 23 @ the Jacksonville Skeet Shoot

I dropped in at the Fish Fry Open skeet shoot at the Jacksonville Skeet & Trap Club and took photographs of Saturday mornings action.

No, did not bring a gun. I just shot with a camera and had a good time. Not a bad drive and it was nice to see some of the shooters I know from the region.

It rained Friday night, but Saturday saw great weather. A slight breeze and a few times I saw a low house bird dancing. The temperature was in the 70's.

I did not see any problems with late squads and most of those pulling targets I've seen in action in the past and I'm sure they did a great job.

Two young workers need to be recognized as they were running around and not sitting on their butts during the time I was at the club.

I don't know there names, but good job...

Shoot Photos

Friday, February 22, 2008

Sporting clays course on a skeet field

Underhill Rod & Gun Club located in Vermont is planning a May 10th 50/50 shoot.

50 5-stand and 50 sporting clays NSCA targets. Non-registered shooters welcomed.

The shoot is still in the planning stages and a flyer has not been released.

They have a very competitive 5-stand and offer NSCA each year.

For the first time sporting clays will be attempted. As the club does not have room for a full course they will convert two skeet fields into a sporting clays course for the day.

The concept can work and should be loads of fun.

I've seen the concept of using a combination skeet/trap field as a sporting clay course at Josée, a club in Quebec, Canada.

Josée puts on two 50 target sporting clays shoots each year, built around one combination field.

One of the better fun shoots I attend each year! My wife attended for the first time last year and it's already on the 2008 calendar.

It's run like FITASC, as each section (to include left and right of the field) is set as a parcour with only one squad at a time in a section. A section has two or more stations.

They have put a bit of effort into this and you see all the targets that you expect to see at any sporting clays course. Targets only require skeet choke, some say IC, with plenty of imagination going into presentations.

Something I posted in the past on the Josée club and should give you a good photo view of the concept.

Hat's off to a small club with a big heart!

They have been doing this for a number of years and have put much work into the concept, each year a new improvement.

I expect Underhill will have similar success with there sporting clays course!

Serialized ammunition, $0.05 tax per round, and Obama

Is this coming to your state?

You decide....


Lawmakers in Illinois have proposed ammunition for handguns and certain specified assault weapons sold be encoded in such a manner that the Director of State Police establishes.

That ammunition contained in one ammunition box may not be labeled with the same serial number as the ammunition contained in any other ammunition box from the same manufacturer. An owner of ammunition for use in a regulated firearm that is not encoded by the manufacturer shall dispose of the ammunition.

Each person selling encoded ammunition at retail in this State shall collect from retail customers a fee of $0.05 for each round that is sold and delivered in this State.

Legislators are also calling for the elimination of ammunition hand-loaders and re-loaders.


The movement to serialize ammunition is a nationwide movement. Similar bills are on the table for Arizona, Maryland, Pennsylvania and many others. The law has already passed in California.

The bills have some advocates in high places, including Presidential candidate, Barack Obama (D- Illinois) who recently commented on gun control following the fatal shootings at NIU.

Obama said he believes in the Second Amendment, but that there is plenty of room for added gun regulations. "There is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation," he said.

While campaigning in gun-friendly Idaho, Obama said that he supports gun control but said he does not intend to take away people's guns.

"A law that has just passed in California allows micro-tracing of bullets that have been discharged in a crime so that they can immediately be traced," said Obama. "This is something that California has passed over the strong objections of the NRA…That's the kind of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of gun violence can get behind."

Tuesday, February 19, 2008

Using FedEx to ship firearms

I use the post office to ship firearms (except handguns) for repairs. I have never had a problem at the Post Office in regard to them questioning my right to ship or after shipment, finding the firearm damaged.

When shipping I assume the package will be run over by a truck and package accordingly.

However, many would rather use FedEx. I have no problem with using FedEx and have used them in the past. I found them expensive and I started using the post office.

The problem is that some are advising you do not have to inform FedEx your shipping a firearm. Also, they will offer a few other words of wisdom that may make you do a bit of tap dancing with FedEx or the government if you follow there advice.

Yes, some may be able to do it differently than what is written and never have a problem. All I can do is give you the law/policy and leave it to you to decide.

I asked FedEx last night for the FedEx firearm shipping policies to confirm what I thought was there rules. They quickly replied. By the way, you must use FedEx Express for handguns.

Firearms FedEx Ground

FedEx Ground will transport and deliver firearms (excluding handguns) as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between:

1. Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S. or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof;


Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same).

2. If your shipment contains firearms, select the Direct Signature Required or Adult Signature Required Delivery Signature Option, depending on the requirements of your shipment. See the Delivery Signature Options section for details. Firearms shipments are not eligible for signature release, driver release or indirect delivery.

FedEx Ground cannot ship or deliver firearms C.O.D.

3. Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx Ground is required to notify FedEx Ground that the package contains a firearm. The outside of the package must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package contains a firearm.

4. The shipper and recipient must be of legal age as identified by applicable law.

5. FedEx Ground will transport small-arms ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Hazardous Materials section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as hazardous materials. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

6. FedEx Ground will not accept for transport handguns, assembled or disassembled.

* Use FedEx Express for handguns.

FedEx Ground Firearms Link

FedEx Express Firearms Link

I recommend you print out the FedEx regulation in regard to shipping firearms if dealing with the local shipper for the first time.


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Monday, February 18, 2008

Spring cleaning, sporting clays courses

Clubs in the north are planning there warm weather shoots or thinking about getting the course prepared for warm weather shooting.

From a shooters perspective, could you please do the following:

Walk the course, don't drive it. You may see problems not seen when driving.

1. Any signs need to be replaced?

2. Are roads or paths that are not to be used clearly marked? I've started down more than one road that was not part of the course.

3. Areas of standing water identified so they can be filled? Have better things to do while waiting my turn to shoot than standing in water or mud.

4. Stands in good shape? We don't need shooters worried about there footing while in the stand. Nor have protruding nails or screws that can catch on clothing.

5. Spent hulls and trash removed. No one wants to shoot at a dump.

6. Is there enough benches on the course for those who walk so they can take a break?

7. What stations have water containers. We don't all have carts!

8. If more than one course or located away from the main building, are maps available?

9. Is the tree that you have been meaning to remove been taking care of?

9. When was the last time the bathrooms were cleaned?

By themselves each is just an irritant.

Add three or four to the mix and it may be costing you shooters.

Sunday, February 17, 2008

Feb 17 @ Amelia Sporting Clays

We stopped by Amelia Shotgun Sports and shot sporting clays.

The new access road is in. It's located just south of the old location.

If your coming by way of Yulee Primary School you can't miss it.

The pads on the combination skeet/trap fields have been poured.

I was told they were looking at a March 18th opening date for both skeet and trap.

The main building is not yet open for business and I suggest you stop at one of the fast food places at the I-95 Yulee exit before proceeding to the club.

The sporting course consist of 15 stations. Target presentations had been changed at a number of stations since are last visit.

A little on the warm side, 80 degrees.

Charging for shoot photographs?

I received a number of emails in the last 24 hours asking if I was now charging to use photographs posted on the Lost Target or thinking of doing so in the future.


A person who was providing shoot photographs to the Lost Target has decided to make it a commercial endeavor and has set up shop and he now charges if you wish to use his photographs without watermark or to be printed. I think this is where the inquires started in regard to my site.

Good for him and I wish him sucess...

I will not charge for use of or mark photographs with a watermark.

Feel free to use any photograph posted to the Lost Target for private or commercial use.

Please don't link directly to the photographs! Right click on photos to download to your computer.

Maybe there is money to be made but the intent of what I do from the very start was to promote the clay target shooting sports, not profit from them.

I have companies ask me to put up a link for them or post product information and I don't ask anything in return. I just consider it part of promoting the clay targets sports. Maybe not in my best interest, but it goes against the grain.

If someone wants to send in a donation or a club lets me shoot at the member rate in appreciation for posting photographs or providing information, GREAT, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it if I receive nothing in return except an occasional thanks.

If the quality of the posted photograph is not at the proper DPI for printing, feel free to contact me and I will send you the original if it's on my computer.

If you wish a copy of all the original photographs for a particular shoot I'm more than willing to burn them to a CD and mail them to you.

If your at a shoot with camera in hand, please consider emailing them as an attachment for posting on the Lost Target for all to enjoy...

Saturday, February 16, 2008

Feb 16 @ the Gator ATA Chain Shoot

I shot 200 singles on Saturday at Gator Skeet and Trap Club.

The shoot is part of the series of ATA Chain shoots held at various clubs in Florida.

A well run shoot. The crew and the desk did an excellent job.

A good squad and the squad leader was a character. He invited us all at various times to have an adult beverage with him after the shoot.

Four fields, 25 targets each. Working right to left. 100 in the AM, 100 in the PM.

Field #5 and I did not like each other. I dropped 6 targets in the first 100 and five targets in the second on this field. It was the third field of the four shot. The field just had my number. Wait until next year : )

I shot 180x200.

Targets were black rim and they looked good to me. The crew was out between 100's checking targets with pole and radar.

One or two had problems with the voice release, but when on the same stations I never had a problem. I did see one person closing his gun late and setting off targets before he called.

The jerk of the day was the shooter who got upset because someone was shooting an 11-87 and the spent hulls were falling halfway between the two pads. It was a trap barrel with the built in deflector. The hulls were not even coming close to hitting him, but he decided to make an issue of it.

On the second 100 the shooter with the 11-87 moved to another squad. Two people who had been watching the squad said the shooter doing the complaining was out of line.

I wonder how many shooters this guy has cost various clubs?

The club is close to an airport and shooting must cease from time to time.

The crew had all spent hulls off the ground by the end of the day.

At the end of todays event the Olympic Bunker trap was opened and all were invited to give it a try.

I departed at 4PM with the temperature at 77 degrees.

Shoot Photos


Three years ago I vistited Gator and was not a happy camper.

I shot bunker and had a great time, but when it was time to shoot skeet the manager at the time seemed to be anti-skeet and once he learned of our desire to shoot skeet had a change in attitude.

All of a sudden we were not on his best friends list. He first put us on a field with only one operational machine (one house could not be used as Bunker was being shot) and the field we final shoot skeet on had some of the worst targets I had ever shot. They needed about five turns on the old Winchesters to bring them up to speed, but at that point all bridges had been burnt.

I had planned to shoot the Gator Chain shoot that was scheduled a few weeks after my initial visit, but I decided I would not spend another dime at the club and today was the first shooting visit.

I don't know what the politics were between the various disciplines at the time, but when a visitor to the club experiences it, the club has a problem.

The old manager is long gone.

All Winchester skeet machines have been replaced with modern machines.

The building of the second Olympic bunker allows for all skeet fields to be operational as the new bunker is not near the skeet fields.

I asked three people about the skeet operation and all had the same story in regard to usage and attitude. I'm satisfied that such problems are a thing of the past.

I had just talked to a shooter last week who said they were never sure when all the skeet fields were available at Gator and started shooting at another club. I did tell the shooter that I thought that issue had been resolved. I hope if your reading this you visit the club some time and give them another try.

I will be returning to the Gator club...

Friday, February 15, 2008

Thanks Jack for opening the Flagler club

Jack Krouskroup was nice enough to open the Flagler club today (Friday) after it was asked if there was anywhere to shoot trap near Daytona on Friday during race week.

Thanks Jack (2nd from left) for taking the time...

Was only going to shoot two rounds, ended up shooting four.

The Flagler club will be on the Florida Chain Shoot schedule next year, the week after the Miami shoot and just prior to the Jacksonville shoot.

Thursday, February 14, 2008

Who tells the referee its time to quit?

I was at a shoot where the referee missed three hits and scored the targets as LOST.

Granted, only a small piece came off the the targets, but hits. Not dust, not the wad, but hits.

Two of the bad calls were on the shooter ahead of me. I clearly saw the piece coming off the bird.

Clear blue skies. The sun nor the background was an issue.

When one of the LOST calls was questioned by two on the squad, the referee marked the miss as a hit. After the 100 targets were shot, we saw that he had erased the X and placed an 0 in the box.

A shooter said this was the second shoot in a row where this same referee was not seeing the small target pieces and calling LOST.

An elderly gentleman. I have no idea when the last time he had his eyes checked or if he is a diabetic or has other medical issues. But it seems the locals are aware there is a problem.

I've pulled targets in skeet, trap and sporting clays. Shot on more squads than I can recall and I have never experienced anything like this. We all miss a call from time to time, but three bad calls on one squad...

No one wants to hear that the referee cost them targets, as we all roll are eyes when we hear that, but in this case the shooter in front of me was robbed of two targets and another robbed of one.

A word or two is spoken to the club about the situation, but who at the club approaches the referee and ask that instead of pulling targets he might help with loading machines or some other activity during a shoot?

A delicate situation and hopefully handled by a close friend.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Kingston Ontario Skeet Shoot, June 2008

A little early to be talking about a skeet shoot, especially one being held in June and in Ontario, Canada, but the Kingston Skeet Club already have advanced shoot registrations in the mail.

I received an email from Chris Lucas asking if I be interested in attending this years NSSA Ducks Unlimited Shoot, June 6-8.

Hard to say no to Chris, as he is one of the small minority of volunteers that we see at many clubs, whom without; shoots would cease and long term operation of the club would be in jeopardy.

Besides, Chris and his wife are some of the nicest people you can meet and the club has a solid core of friendly shooters. My wife and I enjoy running into anyone of the Kingston crowd at shoots we attend.

We have not visited the club in a number of years as we have been attending a shoot in Vermont that same weekend. I had already tentatively schedule the Kingston shoot because at the 2007 Valleyfield Quebec Provincial shoot they had a nice showing from the Kingston club, with most being first time attendee's.

Valleyfield is not my home club, but it was nice to see the Kingston shooters in attendance and it left a good feeling.

Anyway, we will be attending.

A four hour drive and a border crossing required into Canada.

Americans coming up for the first time need to be aware they will be required to pay $25 at the border for a 90 day firearm permit. A very simple process. If you cross several times a year a five year Canadian Firearms License is suggested.

The club is just off the 401 (interstate) and a number of motels located maybe five minutes from the club.

On the road leading to the club is the Italo-Canadian club. This is where the club will have its Saturday meal. You can walk to the restaurant from the gun clubs parking lot. For $15 you will have an authentic Italian cuisine supper with a guarantee “you will not leave hungry”.

A casino is maybe 20 minutes east of the club and not far from the 1000 Islands of New York.

What's a legal skeet target on a windy day?

I came across an interesting posting in regard to if a skeet target was legal if it was hitting the ground before reaching the house on a windy day.

I also see this questioned asked at various shoots.

Yes, a legal target as long as it went through the target setting hoop.

Targets are set for distance under no wind conditions. Hopefully, a few days prior to the shoot when the wind is not blowing.

Once set for distance under no wind conditions, they must go through the hoop; no more, no less.

The rules from the NSSA rule book:

4. Regular Target

A regular target is one that appears after the shooter’s call and within a period not to exceed one (1) second, and which passes within a three-foot circle centered at a point fifteen (15) feet above the target-crossing point.

The target-crossing point shall be measured from the level of Station 8.

The target, in still air, must carry to a distance equivalent, on level ground, to 60yards from the skeet house when passing through the center of the hoop, with an allowance tolerance of plus or minus two yards.



It is recommended to adjust the skeet machine spring to a tension that will just reach the 60 yard stake, passing near dead center on the target setting hoop, under a “no wind” condition. This distance setting has a plus/or minus two (2) yard allowance, but should be as close to 60 yards as possible. Once this setting is made, it is unnecessary to change the spring tension during a tournament unless the spring becomes defective.

The prevailing wind during a shoot may cause the targets to fall far short or long, but they are legal targets providing they pass through the setting hoop.


14. The referee shall be the SOLE judge of decision of fact.

For example, his/her decision as to whether a target is dead or lost shall be irrevocable, regardless of the opinion of spectators or other members of the squad.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Home Invasion Insurance?

I keep coming across articles in regard to Home Invasions, but Home Invasions do not seem to be receiving attention from the national press who it seems considerer's them isolated incidents.

Peter Spicer, vice president, Chubb & Son, and new product manager, Chubb Personal Insurance states that in 2006 there were nearly 1.2 million cases of forcible or unlawful entry into U.S. residences.

Could it be the threat of a Home Invasion justifies the ownership of firearms in the home and the anti-gun national news media finds that a reason to ignore the reporting of Home Invasions, except for the most serious of Invasions?

I had the feeling the average American had no idea home invasions were more common than reported and expanded the Lost Target last year to include a Home Invasion section.

When you hear the call for REASONABLE GUN laws, will they be laws that won't allow for you to have a firearm in the home or have quick access to a firearm if your home is invaded by a gang of youths looking to make a quick score?

Gun rights is more than the right to own a firearm for hunting and never has been!

Chubb Insurance offers Home Invasion coverage.

Who would of thought twenty years ago that such insurance should be a consideration?

"Chubb Personal Insurance is available in 44 states and the District of Columbia, the insurance reimburses the policyholder up to specified limits for various expenses, including lost wages, fees for medical and psychiatric services, professional security consultants and security guards, and the cost of recuperation, improving household security and temporarily relocating one's residence. Masterpiece Family Protection covers the policyholder, his or her spouse and dependent children. Under certain circumstances other relatives, household guests and unrelated passengers in a policyholder's vehicle are also covered for one or more of the insured perils. Depending on the type and severity of covered loss, the policy provides up to $300,000 in coverage. The product costs $110 a year in New York."

Monday, February 11, 2008

DryFire Training System gives Scholastic discount!

Just as the Scholastic youth shooting program has been firmly established in many regions, the cost of ammunition for practice may put a break on expansion.

Some looking at starting a Scholastic program are taking a serious look at the cost of weekly practice. They know the moneies needed to run the program for just one year is considerable. The recent rise in the cost of ammunition has them taking a hard look before they jump in.

The U.S. ammunition companies give discounts, but the rising cost are hurting the less endowed operations. Even those with a decent cash flow are looking for additional resources.

DryFire USA is offering all scholastic clay sport athletes the opportunity to obtain a DryFire Clay Target Training System through a special discount program.

It's an indoor training system for clay target shooters.

Instead of me giving a drawn out explanation on how it works I posted a link to the companies video.

Video (High Speed)

Video (Dial-up)

Cost a few bucks to get the system, but once purchased can be used by the whole team and used year round.

If you think this might be the answer to cost of practice, here is the link to the DryFire discount announcement.

DryFire USA's Target Training System Goes Scholastic Again for '08

Shoot Photographs

The morning sun...

Shooters tried various lenses, none that seemed to work.

I was thinking welding goggles...


For those who have been using the site for a number of years I'm sure you noticed I recently started using a different photo program.

I've gone through two or three.

The last program was demanding in resources required. In reality it needed to be on a dedicated server to work correctly 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Either I had posting problems or users had problems trying to view photographs. Not a satisfying experience for me or the person wishing to view the photographs.

The monthly cost for a dedicated server is to costly for my pocketbook and donatations only go so far, as mostly they our one time contributions. Always appreciated as they really ease the out of pocket expenses, but cannot be relayed upon.

The present photo program seems to fit my needs, displays photos in a timely manner, and has a slide show option.


The game plan for posted photos is to keep them up for as long as I'm breathing.

Hopefully, for at least another 30 years.

Feel free to send photos for posting, as it's a rare site where you can view photographs of all the clay target shooting disciplines.

Your photographs will be viewed by a world wide audience, not just by the shooters at your club or the talk board you happen to post too.


By the way...

Feel free to use posted photos for your own use.

I don't expect any payment as the idea of the Lost Target is to promote the clay target sports not profit from them.

Sunday, February 10, 2008

Feb 10 @ the Palatka NSSA Skeet Shoot

A visitor came by to watch...

Mr. Turtle (maybe Mrs.)

Another sunny day, low 70's in the PM. Somewhat of a wind in the PM, but not that bad.

In the .410 event the low house machine started to windmill. Maybe a couple dozen targets thrown before the machine could be turned off. The club had the machine up and running within six to eight minutes.

The shoot seemed light on shooters from what I've seen in previous years. For whatever reason a club in Southern Florida decided to put on a 4-gun shoot on the same weekend. When it's all said and done it probably cost the shoot 15 shooters.

If your think about it, if the other club had held the shoot the following weekend it most likely would have had an additional 15 shooters in attendance; shooters that had to decide what shoot to attend.

I was told the attendance at the shoot in the south was disappointing, but I'm sure they will try to put a good spin on it.

I understand about zones and all that good stuff, but there is an unwritten rule about clubs scheduling against each other in regard to 4-gun shoots when the snowbirds are down for the winter. Or, so I was lead to believe...

Gander Mountain ammunition sale

I received an internet sale notification from Gander Mountain.

Federal Ammunition Hi-Power® Shotgun Shells

thru Apr 30

12-ga., 1 1/8-oz. target loads in #8 shot size. Box of 25.

Remington Peters “True Blues” Target Loads

thru Apr 30

Your choice of 12-ga. or 20-ga. shotshells. Box of 25.


I highly recommend you visit other stores in the region that sell ammunition prior to purchasing at Gander Mountain.

Saturday, February 09, 2008

Feb 9 @ the Palatka NSSA Skeet Shoot

Shooting the Azalea Open at the Palatka Skeet Club.

The view from station #1, Rotation #1.

I guess you can say we had a sunny start...

Registration went smoothly and the shoot started with the playing of the National Anthem.

Refs switch off after every 50. Works rather well!

Water was available on all fields.

Throughout the day the local parachute club observed the shoot.

I counted nine in the air at the same time.

The 12 gauge was shot in the AM and the 28 gauge in the PM.

Friday, February 08, 2008

Feb 8 @ Jacksonville ATA Trap Shoot

The Jacksonville Gun Club host the Florida ATA Chain Shoot February 6-10, 2008.

I was only able to shoot on Friday and just shot the 16-yard event.

I've been passing on handicap as I've not been practicing my trap shooting except for what I shoot during registered events.

The registration desk was run by Larry & Joann Grenevicki and they have it down to a science.

Beautiful, sunny weather.

At most a slight breeze.

Everyone I ran into was friendly and just seemed to be having a good time.

We shot three fields; Shooting 25, 25, & 50 targets.

Targets looked good and not one came out of the house broken. I did not see one person on any squad having problems with the voice release.

I shot 23, 23, 24, & 24.

The workers at the club were hustling and machines were topped off whenever shooters were moving off the field. I saw them run radar on one field during the break between singles and handicap.

I talked to one of the people that helps maintain machines and he said they had target breakage down to 1%. He also said they had an aggressive preventive maintenance program.

I had several ask me to hang around and shoot the handicap, but I would have just been throwing my money away. Thanks for asking...

I noticed coin (token) operated machines on the fields.

Token or card machines are starting to be seen at more and more clubs. Clubs that install them see an instant decrease in target breakage.

The club sells ammunition and components and as in past years they are not trying to profit on the back of shooters.

A skeet field was open and I also saw a squad on the 5-stand.

Friday Photos

Thursday, February 07, 2008

Odds & Ends (Feb 7)

I shot White Flyer targets one week and Champion the next.

They both brake when you hit them, but White Flyer hits were 100% more satisfying.

Not worried about target brand, but nothing breaks like a White Flyer target.

As for me, all I ask is that targets be consistent from field to field when shooting skeet or trap, but I sure enjoy center hits on a White Flyer target.


Not all clubs believe in setting distance stakes correctly and/or ensuring target height is on the money.

Not many visiting shooters will run out with a tape measure and check (especially distance stakes), but those who shoot at more than a few clubs pick up on targets set in this manner almost immediately. Maybe when mowing the lawn the stakes were knocked down and not re-sited correctly or the person setting the stakes was mistaken on distance required. Most have heard my story of when I measured the height pole at one club it was three feet to short.

It leads me to believe the club just wishes to offer soft targets and high scores.

The locals may be happy, but I think twice before spending my money at such a club.


Lead prices do not seem to be dropping as some predicted.

A major producer of lead in India just increased prices by 3.1 percent.

The free market in the long run will sort things out, as todays prices will bring increase mining and for those companies that re-process lead, added capacity.

I think most shooters would be happy just to see lead fall back to the $25 - $30 range for a bag of lead. Don't hold your breath unless something drastic happens on the world market.


For many, ammunition value packs purchased at Wal-Mart is the best deal they are going to find. Deals on flats of ammunition can be found at Dicks, but not all Dicks are shooter friendly.

Any value pack around $20 comes out to $50 a case before taxes.

For those who have not shopped for ammuntion for some time, those $15 and $16 value packs are no longer to be found. I've seen value packs priced at $23 plus.

AA & STS prices are moving to a price area where many have to think twice before buying. I don't think I've seen either for under $6.50 and not uncommon to see $7 plus.

Serious 28 & .410 shooters will need to reload or have money to burn.


I got around to cleaning my Remington 1100 from last weeks trap shoot.

I'll use the word dirty, but it was worse than that.

Shot Remington Value Pack Sporting loads.

I would recommend if shooting 200 targets in one day, to tear the gun down after the first 100.


A most enjoyable skeet shoot scheduled for this weekend at the Palatka skeet club.

Sold out shoot, seven fields. Steak dinner Saturday night.

The local parachutist club likes to work out on nice days, even when a shoot is scheduled.

A photo from last years shoot.

The down side for us is we have an 8:30am start and unless a cloud or two, looking right into the early morning sun. Bill of the hat down as far as it will go and see what happens.

Wednesday, February 06, 2008

28 Gauge for Trap, Sporting, & Skeet?

If your lucky to own a 28 gauge shotgun you may want to consider using it in practice for the three major shotgun disciplines in the US and Canada.

Trap, skeet, & sporting clays.

The shotgun must be able to hold two shells and have changeable chokes and plausible cost wise only if you reload.

If you have an 12 or 20 Gauge O/U, maybe 28 gauge drop-in tubes from Briley will fit the bill. New or used. If your just interested in trap, only one tube required.

Stay away from little SKEETERS. If thinking of purchasing the short drop in tubes, make sure they have shell extractors. Briley used to let you purchase the short ones they offer and if not satisfied allow you to upgrade to the regular size drop-ins.

I've had excellent results in 16-yard trap and sporting clays using LM choke and #8 shot. Always a pleasure on most 5-stands. I'm sure most would have better results with modified or tighter chokes, but I prefer LM.

Will you have the same trap and sporting clays scores as shooting the 12 gauge? No, but in time of raising cost and for those seriously thinking of cutting back, shooting the 28 gauge in practice may just be the ticket.

Obviously, your looking to shoot at a sporting clays course that offers mostly IC targets. From various club visits most practice courses are set for IC anyway so not a problem for most.

I ran the cost to reload using Graf & Sons, as they are accessible to all, but not the best prices.

You need a reloader. Buy a used MEC and don't look back. I would not recommend a MEC Jr.

28 Gauge Reloading Cost (Graf & Sons prices, except for lead)

$114.99 Alliant 20/28 Powder (8lbs)
$149.99 Win 209 Primers (5000)
$82.99 Claybuster Wads (5000)
$37 Shot (25 lbs)
$0.15 Hulls per (Use ten times)

$3.66 per box

* Not necessary the lowest prices. (Graf's prices include shipping)

Tuesday, February 05, 2008

Increase in gun club shooting draws complaint

A club adds 5-stand, builds a new trap field, and/or adds an extra day to the schedule. Maybe the club has increased membership from 100 to 250 members from the time the club was founded.

Neighbors complain “There has been a significant expansion of the shooting to the point where it is no longer bearable.”

And, you thought all you had to worry about was the EPA...

This is not an uncommon complaint against gun clubs when all other efforts to close or limit the clubs operations has failed. This can be a huge expense for the club to fight. Lawyers are required, not the lawyers at the club that offer free advice that is mostly opinion and not based on law. You might even hear some clubhouse lawyers say "don't worry" we are grandfathered and present zoning laws don't apply. Not the advice I rely upon.

If planning expansion, ensure you clear all plans with local government and permits issued as required.

The old days of throwing up a building on the property without a permit is a thing of the past, as well as deciding to start shooting on Saturday, after never having done so in the past.

If you have a written agreement with the local government, read it carefully. If changes are required, ensure you follow the process. Your club may even have a formal or informal agreement with neighbors on hours of operation. What of them?

At a minimum, when changing the hours the club operates and/or expanding operations, a representative of the club should attend a town meeting and brief officials before its a done deal. Neighbors need to be informed.

In any case, you do have a club representative that once or twice a year attends town meetings to brief on club operations, such as youth programs offered, and to answer questions from the public?


The article...

Litchfield residents upset with shooting at gun club

American-Republican - CT - February 5, 2008

LITCHFIELD --- An increase in shooting at a gun club that has operated in the Milton section of town for more than 40 years has neighboring property owners worried about land values and safety.

They brought their concerns about the White Oak Gun Club to the Planning and Zoning Commission Monday and asked the commission to direct its zoning enforcement officer, Matthew Speck, to investigate.

The club has used the Blue Swamp Road property of Joyce Cropsey and her late husband, Buck, since the mid 1960s and until recently coexisted with the neighborhood without incident.

But over the past six to eight months, the club has increased its activity to the point where gunshots can be heard throughout the day most days of the week, according to Peter Herbst of Torrington, a lawyer representing five neighbors. Shooting used to be limited to Sundays, Herbst told the commission.

“There has been a significant expansion of the shooting to the point where it is no longer bearable,” Herbst said. “The gun club has become a commercial enterprise members are paying thousands of dollars to be part of.”

Monday, February 04, 2008

Flagler offers trap on Feb 15

Flagler Gun & Archery Club (Bunnell, Florida) has offered to open it's doors on Friday, February 15 for those visitors to the region who wish to shoot trap.

This is the same weekend as the Daytona 500.

You must call Jack and confirm (386) 252-6878.

Usually a morning club, so I would confirm hours of operation.

An easy drive from Daytona.

Also, visit Northeast Florida Clubs for location of clubs north of Daytona, links include maps to clubs.

Sunday, February 03, 2008

Hillary Clinton and Obama fight over gun control

Speaking to reporters on a flight between California and Arizona, Hillary Clinton accused Barack Obama of flip-flopping on the issue of gun control.

Earlier today, Obama said he had "no intention of taking away folks' guns.”

But Obama has a history of supporting gun control measures. And the Clinton campaign pointed out a questionnaire from 1996 where Obama said he "supported banning the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.”

Clinton said Obama has some explaining to do.


Hillary Clinton's postion in regard to gun control...

Hillary Clinton Voted NO.

1. Prohibition On Confiscation Of Firearms.

To prohibit the confiscation of a firearm during an emergency or major disaster if the possession of such firearm is not prohibited under Federal or State law).

October 4, 2006 - Passed and Signed by President, Became Public Law No: 109-295

2. Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.

A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others.

October 26, 2005- Passed and Signed by the President and became Public Law No: 109-92


Anti-gun Bills Hillary Clinton Cosponsored:

110th Congress:

S. 368: Massively expand federal funding and control of local law enforcement.

S. 456: Treat firearms offenses as though they were Mafia or gang-releated crimes.

109th Congress:

S. 527: Redefine more handgun ammunition as "armor piercing".

S. 578: FBI to maintain gun sales records of persons on "watch lists" for 10 years.

S. 620: Reinstate the expired ban on semi-automatic firearms and magazines.

S. 645: Semi-auto ban plus a ban on some youth sportshooting competitions.

S. 935: Fifty-caliber ban.

108th Congress:

S. 22: Omnibus gun control: gun show ban, lifetime juvenile offender ban, FBI record-keeping, much more.

S. 448: Huge bill including a magazine ban, gun show ban, mandatory trigger locks, one-handgun-a-month, etc.

S. 1034: Semi-auto ban reauthorization.

S. 1431: Vastly expanded semi-auto ban reauthorization (more guns banned plus other anti-gun provisions).

S. 1774: Permanently ban polymer-framed (so-called "plastic") firearms.

S. 1807: Gun show ban.

S. 1882: FBI to maintain gun sales records of persons on "watch lists".

S. 1983: National ballistic registry of all new fireams, plus increased BATF power and funding.

S. 2109: Ten-year extension of the semi-auto ban then in effect.

107th Congress:

S. 16: "Crime bill" including: gun show ban, lifetime juvenile offender ban, FBI record-keeping, much more.

S. 767: Gun show ban.

S. 924: Expand federal police power, specifically the federal government's role in "firearms-related incidents."

S. 940: Gun show ban included in a large education bill.

S. 1253: Register lawful gun buyers for a minimum of 90 days.

S. 1788: Audit background check information; make it available for both criminal and civil inquiries.

Source: Gun Owners of America


License and register all handgun sales

Hillary Rodham Clinton offered her support for a legislative proposal to license hand guns. The legislation, sponsored by Sen. Charles Schumer, would require anyone who wants to purchase a gun to obtain a state-issued photo gun license. “I stand in support of this common sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun,” Clinton said. “I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing.”

Source: Jun 2, 2000


Hillary Clinton Appeals For Gun Control Lobbying

Stepping up the Clinton Administration's campaign against gun violence, Hillary Rodham Clinton used an emotional White House ceremony today to call on Americans to press Congress to ''buck the gun lobby'' and pass several gun control measures.

Source: New York Times May 9, 1999

Saturday, February 02, 2008

Feb 2 @ the Flagler NSSA Skeet Shoot

We shot NSSA skeet at Flagler Gun & Archery Club in Bunnell, Florida. The same club I shot ATA Trap at on Friday.

Sunny skies with the temperature just below 70 degrees.

Early morning start, looking right into the sun. A bit of wind kicking up now and than. High house bird diving from time to time and costing shooters a few targets.

We just shot one gun.

We squadded with seasoned shooters, moving quickly through the four rounds.

An excellent puller who was fast on the button.

I shot the 12 gauge event using 20 gauge shells.

I dropped two targets on station 4 high in round 2 & 3 and ended up with a 98.

My 12 gauge average needed that as I had a rough go of it in the 12 gauge at a few shoots towards the end of last year. Well, maybe more than a few...

Shoot Photos

Friday, February 01, 2008

Feb 1 @ the Flagler ATA Trap Shoot

Shot ATA Trap at the Flagler Gun & Archery Club in Bunnell, Florida today.

70 degrees, overcast, and saw a light sprinkle during lunch. A light, shifting breeze. Clear skies was the forecast for the PM and the rest of the weekend. The shoot last through the weekend.

The club just constructed two new trap fields and I was eager to try them out.

Grass seed had not yet started to grow on the new fields, the construction was that new.

The planning for the new trap fields looked well thought out and both trap houses had roofs that lift to gain access. Makes for easy loading of the PAT traps. Plenty of room was available for storage of targets. Prefab construction I'm told.

The front doors still needed to be permanently attached and from what I saw a simple, but cleaver design.

Ground level at the new fields is noticeable higher compared to the two old adjoining trap fields. The clubs property is flat and can take a soaking during any type of rain. I'm sure this took more than a truckload or two of fill to accomplish. Good thinking and money well spent...

Registration was fast and all information punched into a computer.

I only shot 100 16-yard targets in the AM.

Shot Winchester Value Pack shells purchased at Wal-Mart for under $20. The full choke Remington 1100 worked flawlessly.

I wish that I could say I shot brilliantly but it was not to be; 24, 20, 24, 21.

We shot 50 each on two different fields.

An excellent background.

I watched a few missed targets fall right at the distance stake.

A friendly bunch was on hand and I think most would not have any problem fitting in.

The club has plans for a fifth field and it will be operational for the 2009 Florida Chain shoot. With the expansion of the clubs trap operation the club has requested that it be placed on the Chain Shoot Calendar, between the Miami and Jacksonville shoots.

Flager also offers skeet, sporting clays, rifle and all the rest you would associate with a club of that size. I've not looked at there schedule recently, but if I remember correctly, skeet and trap is available only in the AM on scheduled days of operation. No PM trap or skeet shooting that I can remember. It may have changed, but I would check first if planning a visit.

A few Shoot Photos