Friday, November 30, 2012

The Sportsmen's Act of 2012 and the Consitution

The Sportsmen's Act of 2012 (a collection of 17 bills) recently did not receive enough votes in procedural proceedings and was withdrawn.

A number of organizations are rising hell and pressuring anyone who will listen to contact there senators and have them bring the bill back to the floor of the senate so it can be voted on and passed.

The NRA says:

S. 3525 is an essential piece of legislation focused on the expansion and enhancement of hunting, recreational fishing and shooting on federal public land.  But it's more than that. 

Of critical importance is the fact that, in addition to promoting land access, S. 3525 would amend the "Toxic Substances Control Act" to prevent this and future administrations from using the Environmental Protection Agency to eliminate the right of hunters, shooters and anglers to use traditional ammunition and fishing tackle.  The bill would amend the law to clarify that the EPA does not have the authority to regulate shot, bullets or sport fishing equipment. 

The bill also allows for the importation of polar bears legally taken from approved populations in Canada before the 2008 ban. 


The problem with the bill that it has a Duck Stamp tax increase of $10 and is unconstitutional as it did not originate in the House of Representatives:

Article I, Section 7 states that all revenue bills shall originate in the House of Representatives

This Duck Stamp Tax increase did not originate in the House!  One more time, This Duck Stamp Tax increase did not originate in the House!

Are we at the point that the constitution of the U.S.A. is just an outdated piece of paper that has no meaning?

Bring the bill back without the funding increase....

Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (additional firearms to be added):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 CarbineSturm Ruger Mini-14
Bushmaster XM15
Armalite M15
Thompson 1927
Thompson M1
NHM 90
NHM 91
SA 85
SA 93
Olympic Arms PCR
Calico Liberty
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or DragunovSVU
Fabrique National FN/FAL
HK-91, HK-93
Thompson 1927 Commando
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle
SKS with detachable magazine
SLG 95
SLR 95 or 96
Steyr AU
Galil and Uzi Sporter
Galil Sporter or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz)

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110
Olympic Arms OA
TEC-22 Scorpion or AB-10

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BGSPAS 12 or LAW 12
Striker 12

Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.

During a speech in 1995 Eric Holder says people need to be brainwashed into thinking negatively about guns.

Tuesday, November 27, 2012

NY Carry Concealed Handgun Law Upheld

A.G. Schneiderman Wins Major Court Victory in Defense of State Gun Safety Laws

In a unanimous decision in the case of Kachalsky, et al. v. Cacace, et al, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit rejected a constitutional challenge to New York's handgun licensing statute, ruling that the law requiring individuals to demonstrate “proper cause” to obtain a license to carry concealed handguns in public does not violate the Constitution’s Second Amendment.



This goes along with my previous postings that all the landmark Supreme Court ruling did was give you the right to purchase a firearm and keep it in the home.   Not what all want to hear, but when you boil down the ruling that's what your left with.

The states have the ability to pass restrictive gun laws at any time, as long as they allow a firearm in the home and don't go overboard with associated fees.  Yes, they can require firearm registration of said firearms!

Guns shows are heavily regulated in some states, as well as some states have assault weapons bans in place.  Those laws with not be overturned by the Supreme Court!

Don't take your eye off the ball at the federal level, but the battle for firearms rights is best fought at the state level...

Saturday, November 24, 2012

Summary of Changes: International Skeet & Bunker Trap


Skeet Target Throwing Distance. The distance Skeet targets must travel is increased by 2.00 m from 66.00 m +/1.00 m to 68.00 m +/- 1.00 m.

Skeet Course of Fire. Possible changes in the order that the Skeet stations are fired are still under consideration and will be decided as soon as possible.

Double Trap. The course of fire will use random A, B and C schemes in each round instead of the present fixed schemes. The double schemes are thrown randomly, but during each round of 25 pairs, each athlete will receive the same number of pairs from each scheme at each station. The delayed release is eliminated.

Eye Protection. Competitors and officials on the field of play in Skeet events are required to wear eye protection.

Coaching. Non-verbal coaching is permitted during Shotgun competitions only.

Plated Shot. Because of environmental concerns, plated pellets will be prohibited as of 1 January 2014.

Side Blinders. As an added safety protection, side blinders for Shotgun only may be up to 60mm in depth.



Trap and Double Trap. Eight qualifiers advance from the qualification and are divided into two squads of four to compete in two quarterfinals. Each competition series (quarterfinals, semifinals and medal duels) consists of 15 targets or 15 doubles shot from stations two, three and four with target throwing schemes (2 left, 1 center and 2 right on each station) that ensure the equal distribution of targets. The top two in each quarterfinal advance to the semifinal. After the semifinal the third and fourth place shooters advance to the bronze medal duel and the first and second place in the semifinal shoot for the gold and silver medals.

Skeet. Eight qualifiers advance from the qualification and are divided into two squads of four to compete in two quarterfinals. Each competition series (quarterfinals, semifinals and medal duels) consists of one regular double and one reverse double on stations 3, 4, 5 and 4 (four targets on each station) for a total of 16 targets. The top two in each quarterfinal advance to the semifinal. The third and fourth place shooters in the semifinal shoot in the bronze medal duel and the first and second place in the semifinal shoot for the gold and silver medals.

Remington Gun Clubs, Brass Seperation

I've had a number of brass separations when reloading in all the skeet gauges through the years.  Just something that you see when reloading thousands of shells. 

I've never had it happen to a FACTORY shell (new in the box)  until experiencing several this year while shooting my Remington 1100. 

My recent separation took place when shooting trap this past Friday.

Factory shell!

My forth this year!

Friday, November 23, 2012

Olympic Shooting Rule Changes

The International Shooting Sport Federation (ISSF) has made drastic changes to the competition format in the next Olympic cycle from 2013 to 2016. It has announced that all finals would start from zero and end in a duel for the gold,

The changes, which were viewed with great concern by the leading shooters around the world when the proposal was made, were “unanimously approved” by the ISSF Administrative Council recently, according to a release from the ISSF.
Similar format
For the London Games, only the men’s rapid fire pistol event had the format in which the top six shooters made the final and started from zero in a hit or miss knockout drill. Now, all the Olympic events will have a similar format with some changes.
The qualification scores will not be added any more to decide the final positions.
In men’s double trap, there will be five preliminary rounds of 30 birds each, instead of three rounds of 50 birds each. In skeet, the target throwing distance will be increased by two metres to 68, and the two station-4 doubles will be shot after station-7 to ensure higher degree of difficulty towards the end.
In air rifle for both men and women, as well as 50-metre rifle prone event for men, it has been decided to have decimal scoring in qualification on a test basis in the World Cups for 2013.
A decision will then be made about continuing with decimal scoring for these events, or about having decimal scoring in qualification for all 10-metre and 50-metre events. Each shot will have a maximum of 10.9 points instead of 10, which was only used for the finals so far.
In the 50-metre 3-position event, the order has been revised to kneeling-prone-standing instead of prone-standing-kneeling.
The final will also be shot over all the three positions, instead of only standing as was the case so far.
“Change is necessary, to keep our sport on top. And with the new finals we made an important step forward to keep that leading position,” said the ISSF president, Olegario Vazquez Rana.
Hit or miss scoring
Quite significantly, the 25m pistol events for men and women will use the “hit or miss” scoring to “encourage more spontaneous spectator reactions.” To further avoid confusion for the spectators, the ‘preparation and sighting period’ will be for the 15 minutes before the actual competition.
Earlier, the shooters could continue with ‘sighters’ even during the regular competition period, and had to just press a button on the computer to start their competition shots.
There will also be many changes in the rules regarding rifle clothing and equipment. The objective was to limit the use of performance-enhancing clothing and equipment while maximising the tests of skill, training and performance. And also to keep the competition conditions as equal as possible for all rifle shooters. The ISSF had felt that the development of rifle clothing, equipment and accessories had reached dangerous proportions in terms of performance-enhancing capabilities.

Sportsman's Club of Franklin County (Vt) Skeet Field Warming Shed

The Sportsman's Club of Franklin County (St. Albans, Vermont) recently purchased a shed and installed it next to skeet field #2. Plans are to install a heater, with the building used for quick warm-up's during the cold winter months.

I hope the club takes the building to the next level and puts a refrigerator in the building for sale of soft drinks during the warm winter months, sell chips of various brands, and also uses the building as  "shoot desk" headquarters during clay target fun shoot events.

Maybe even setting the grill out and sell hotdogs (cook your own) whenever the club is open or when the fields are used for various functions.

WiFi is now available at the clubhouse, and dear to the heart to those who ever volunteered their time mowing and taking care of access roads, the club purchased a new brush hog and box grader for ground maintenance.

If you shot at the club in past years but haven't visited in several years you may want to consider a return visit.  The club is marching forward and you can expect major improvements to not only the overall operation of the club, but also too the rifle/pistol range.

The club is located on lake road Route 36, southwest of Swanton, Vermont.

Wednesday, November 21, 2012

FITASC @ Underhill (Vt)

The 5-stand guys at the Underhill Rod & Gun Club removed the stands and setup a FITASC parcour in its place. 

Just for the day.  An opportunity for shooters to experience the basic rules of FITASC and low gun shooting.

The governing body for FITASC is located in France.  A world organization with annual world championships held in a different country each year. One year it could be held in Australia and the next in South Africa.

Without going into information overload; 1 oz. loads, no pre-mounts, low gun, can't start your gun until you see the target, and no talking by squad members.   Five or six machines per layout with three separate shooting stations.  All shoot each station before moving to the next.  On singles you can take two shots. 

On the shooters call the referee will use a whistle to single the trapper to release a target(s).

Not a fast game. It can take some time for a squad to shoot 25 targets.  Clubs usually require pre-registration and limit the number of shooters.  Not uncommon to be required to put down a deposit when pre-registering.

The weather cooperated and a nice turnout.  I estimated at least 24 shoots. 

A fun day, a social outing!

For some, the first time shooting low gun.  More than a few pre-mounts after shooters stepped into the hoop or starting the gun before the target was visible. 

The club is looking at doing this again next year and plan on providing two parcours.


Thursday, November 15, 2012

Wounded Warrior Project: Anti-Gun Response

Wounded Warrior redux: WWP now ‘Clarifying our approach’

Some may call it a scramble for damage control, others may portray it as a “clarification” of what became a massive misunderstanding.

Good afternoon Ms. Dovey,

Leslie Coleman forwarded me your email. Thanks so much for reaching out to Wounded Warrior Project® (WWP) and for providing an opportunity to clarify matters.

Let me start off by saying that we have seen through this process that the language on our website and our response to Mr. Gresham wasn’t clear and we are working on clarifying our approach. There is now much inaccurate information about WWP being anti-gun rights, an issue as an apolitical organization we do not take a stance on. We understand and appreciate that many of our Alumni are gun owners and we facilitate multiple hunting and outdoor opportunities for our Wounded Warriors throughout the year.

In the past, we made our logo available to appear on wide variety of products, including guns. As an organization, we owe it to our donors and constituents to maximize the return on investment of our dollars and brand. We are always looking at our business practices and whether we should continue with them in the future. In the case of cobranding, we've decided that we're not going to offer our logo to appear on weapons anymore - whether they're guns, knives, bows, swords, or any other type of weapon. There are still a few of the guns around for sale that had licensed our logo years ago, but there aren't any new ones being made. This is purely a business decision based on a review of a return on investment, especially when compared with other types of cobranding ventures.

Regarding the question of donations and events, we do permit fundraisers that are shooting- and gun-related, such as gun raffles, shooting competitions, etc., and we're incredibly appreciative of those who are willing to give their time to host or participate in an event. Likewise, we gratefully accept donations from companies and individuals connected with the gun industry.

As indicated above, we know that hunting and shooting sporting events can be very therapeutic for many of the Wounded Warriors we serve, and we're happy to work with the community to make these types of events available to our Alumni. Hunting and shooting sport enthusiasts are an incredibly supportive and generous community, and we've been honored by how often folks have opened their land and homes, and volunteered their time to make these types of events possible for our Alumni. We certainly regret the appearance of a lack of appreciation for the support the community has given us based on a confusingly communicated business decision.

I hope the above provides some clarity. We welcome the opportunity to have a warrior on Mr. Gresham’s show to discuss how hunting or events of the like have supported their recovery. We responded too quickly to his request and should have delved a bit deeper.

Thanks so much and please feel free to call me with any questions.

communications evp


Obama 2nd Term and Firearm Laws

I've read a number of doomsdays articles in the last few weeks in regard to firearm confiscation and other restrictions in regard to the right to own a firearm.

Be reminded, the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution had nothing to do with the right to Bear Arms so you could go hunting!

In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two Second Amendment decisions. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. In dicta, the Court listed many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession as being consistent with the Second Amendment. In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.

This is what the Obama administration could realistically SHOOT for with that in mind!

Assault Weapons Ban:

Passing and implementation of the Assault Weapons Ban.  Basically if it looks like a military rifle it would be outlawed (firearms meeting a certain criteria) .  The previous law in addition named actual firearms.  A ban on high capacity magazines is a certain.

It's being debated if the ban would require turn-in of firearms or if they would be grandfathered!

At the federal level Remington 1100s and like weapons were not affected during the last ban.

Outlawing of Private Sales:

All sales would be required to be via an FFL.  No direct sales to any individual by another individual.  FFL must be used and all sales would be vetted through the ATF system.

* This may have the best chance of passing!

United Nations:

Arms and ammunition control via international law. 

Though the treaty is supposed to be about “gun exports,” its provisions can still be applied domestically. Activist judges adjudicating cases arising under the treaty and enabling legislation could see to that. The definition of international commerce could follow the same expansive logic liberal courts have used to redefine “interstate commerce.” Anything that indirectly or incidentally affects the trade in arms would fall under its control.

A ratified treaty, with constitutional authority, could be interpreted in a way that applies to any imported weapon or round of ammunition, those made with foreign components, those containing imported materials, those that might some day be exported, and those capable of being exported. If it affects the overall arms market, it could be said to be part of “international” trade, even if the item never leaves our shores. In practice this logic would give the government free rein to regulate all weapons, foreign and domestic. (Washington Times Article)

The Biggest Threat:

Be wary of states and cities.  By law they have to allow you to have a firearm in your home.  And, in my interpretation of the law, not charge excess fees for you to exercise that right.  An excessive tax (fee) on firearms and ammunitions would most likely be overturned in the courts at the federal level.

They can require permits and registration for all firearms.  They can outlaw certain types of weapons (assault weapons).  They can require you to have a permit to purchase ammunition.

In some states, cities can implement stricter laws than the state. New York City has stricter guns laws than the state.

Be wary of states and cities....

911: We just can't possibly have cars outside every house

Rely solely on 911 or be prepared to defend your home and family?

Eastern New Orleans (Home Invasion):

 The St. Helena Place victims said they were shocked that the robbers were undeterred by their 10-foot fence, four cars in the driveway, signs warning of their security alarm system and visible cameras. 

Crouching behind a living room couch, the husband fired several shots at the robbers. The robbers returned fire with an automatic weapon and another gun.

The victims said they were "very disappointed" with the NOPD's response time. The wife said her phone call with the 911 dispatcher lasted 15 minutes before police arrived. "If we'd waited for NOPD, we'd be dead," the wife said.

NOPD spokeswoman officer Hilal Williams, however, said the department's response time was "acceptable" -- officers were dispatched to the scene at 4:09 a.m. and the first units arrived at 4:18 a.m. Williams acknowledged that "10 minutes can feel like forever when you're in that type of situation," but still, she said, the reality is "we just can't possibly have cars outside every house."


Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Wounded Warrior Project: Anti Gun?

Disturbing article posted to

In a development that shocked veteran talk show host Tom Gresham of the nationally-syndicated Gun Talk Radio program, the Wounded Warrior Project “declined an interview request on Gun Talk Radio because it's a firearms-related show.

“I'm stunned at your email saying that the WWP doesn't participate in an interview or activity related to firearms,” Gresham emailed the charity’s public relations director, Leslie A. Coleman. “Inasmuch as there are 90 million gun owners and most of them support wounded veterans, I think they would be shocked to hear that they are, by way of their hobbies, somehow not worthy of helping with the Wounded Warriors Project.”

“WWP does not co-brand, create cause marketing campaigns or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies in which the product or message is sexual, political or religious in nature, or from alcohol or firearms companies,” Coleman replied. “Our position regarding firearms and alcohol is in response to the struggles that many injured service members face with substance abuse and suicide and the roles those items often play in those issues.”

“Your policy does, in fact, brand firearms and the companies which make them as undesirables, and by association, you are saying that those who own and use firearms for recreation, hunting, self protection, and other safe and legal uses are to be avoided,” Gresham responded. “I cannot fully express how much I feel you are doing a disservice to our wounded veterans, and how disappointed I am to discover this bias at the Wounded Warriors Project.”


Saturday, November 10, 2012

Ten Years ago, The Lost Target was Conceived!

I was using my AOL account to host a website for my club a little over ten years ago.  A simple site; listing contact information, shoot dates and so on. I may have been posting a few photos, but not something I remember.  Digital cameras were just becoming popular.  Band width was limited, with most on dial up. Photos posted were small in size.  Rarely no bigger than 640x480.

In 2002, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) implemented the requirement for visitors to the U.S.A. to pre-approve temporary importations of firearms into the USA for hunting or sporting purposes.

A shock to many, as previously all a Canadian had to show at the border was a shoot flyer or membership in a gun club in the states.  My club in New York was severely impacted, as it was very popular with Canadian shooters.  There numbers dried up almost over night as information needed for those wishing to cross the border was not getting out, and when it did, in many cases not correct.

I was tracking the implementation of the program, but frustrated in not having the ability of getting the information out.  I immediately saw that shooters from the coast to coast were having problems.  U.S. Customs had there own ideas on how the program would be implemented.  More then a few were quoted as saying they did NOT WORK for the ATF. Many Canadians were turned  away even though they had the correct paperwork.  Many were allowed entry, but only after considerable delays.  The ATF were severely understaffed, not realizing how many Canadians entered the states each year with firearms.  Paperwork was delayed and/or lost. Initially they were not communicating well with those in charge of those manning the border crossings.

On November 11, 2002 the Lost Target website was born. I had been kicking the idea around and had formatted in my mind what I wished to present and went for it.  The first few years the site was hosted at an ISP in Hong Kong.  Hey, the price was right! 

I now had a tool to post information in regard to entering the U.S.A with a firearm, the big issue of the day.  Posting every crossing incident that I was made aware, calling the ATF and asking for clarification of rulings and posting there responses to the site. 

Several organization and a number of shooters in Canada fed me problems that shooters experienced at the border.  Many phone calls were made to the ATF.  Letters were sent.  U.S. Customs manages/supervisors were contacted.  I won't go into all the problems experienced, but they were considerable.  It took over two years to almost get to the point where problems were at a minimum.

I once received an email from someone working in the Firearms Branch of the ATF asking if I would post a procedure change.  He said it was the fastest way that he knew to get the word out.

Anyhow, the site grew.  Posting my first photos in early 2003 after a shooter from South Africa asked WHY no photos?  Times have changed. Hardly anyone on dial up, and bandwidth no longer an issue.  I post several thousand photos a year without given it any thought.

At some point the Canadian government required visitors to Canada to also register there firearms upon entry. An information page was added to the Lost Target to address those procedures.

Flying with firearms became an issue and that lead to another page. 

I gather you see the pattern.  I see a change in procedures or questions being asked and finding it hard to find correct answers, so a page is added to the Lost Target.  Not wishing to lose the history of problems solved or questions answered.

In July 2008 I posted my first video, the 2008 Canadian Olympic Trap Championships.  Almost 87,000 viewings as of today.  Videos came about after I attended a Lobster Sporting Clays shoot with George Digweed in attendance. I realized my still camera was not doing justice documenting the shooting demonstration he put on.  Shooting 5-stand from the hip (and breaking the targets) and shooting targets from the parking lot at a distance of over 100 yards.  Last year I upgraded my camera and now all videos posted are in HD.

I hope to follow up on this posting in another ten years!

Joe Potosky

Thursday, November 01, 2012

ATA Average Card, Print Your Card!

The ATA has implemented an easy way for a member to print an up to date average card.

In the paperwork that came with this seasons Average Card it contained the following announcement:

"Due to the ever increasing costs of postage and handling we are asking that you print your average card in the future.  When you print your average card, you will also be printing all of your individual scores and averages for the current year."

* Shoot information has been available in the past. Shoot updates usually lags by a few weeks, more if a club does not send in information on a timely bases. Bug the club not the ATA if you don't see your scores posted!

I'm left with the impression this will be the last year the card will be mailed, unless requested.

A huge saving to any organization.  No postage and handling  fees! 

Membership and shoot fees can be utilized for something other then subsidizing the postal system!

As part of the process of accessing your printable Average Card via password access, you have to provide an email address. 

I imagine a system that emails renewal notices.  You pay on line or via snail mail.  Receive an email acknowledgement of payment and notified by the ATA to watch your account for the update to the current shooting year! You print the card and your set to go...

How long before the NSSA / NSCA follows?